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THOMAS M. HARTMAN

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Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 10:43 pm:   

I AM HELPING A FRIEND RESTORE A CHAPARRAL. IT IS MISSING THE TRANSMISSION MOUNT AND SOME OF THE LINKAGE TO THE TRANS. DOES ANY BODY HAVE PICTURES OF THE TRANS INSTALLED WITH ALL THE STEERING LINKAGE INSTALLED?
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Richard/SIA

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Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 10:43 pm:   

I have had my Chapparel 2J for a couple of years, it's still in the project stage.
It's supposed to run, and is very complete except that the body is full of bondo and cracks.
It looks like Nevada rocks and 6x6 do not mix well!

I hope to fix this one up, I would like to find a good body, but may make my own out of easy to repair fiberglass. WHY did'nt these guys use 'glass in the first place?

The silly little stock tires appear to be almost impossible to find, the good news is that some of them appear to be OK.

A manual, or at least a wire schematic, would be very helpful.

I would like to determine what sort of plastic Chapparel used, I have had good luck with the 3M repair system on some other projects.

Anyone with parts or info please e-mail me.
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david berger (Davidrrrd)

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Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 10:43 pm:   

WELL RICHARD, THE CHAPPERAL IS MADE OUT OF ABS, I'LL E-YOU A PICTURE OF A FRIENDS I FIXED WITH MY ABS REPAIR STUFF, INFO ON THIS STUF CAN BE FOUND ON THIS SITE UNDER- ROUTE6X6 DISCUSSION BOARD : SHOP TALK:TECH TIPS AND Q&A SECTION:ATTEX BODIES: ARCHIVE TROUGH AUGUST 5, 1999 AND ALL OTHERS TOO DATE,
ITS REAY EASY TO FIX RIGHT AND UNLIKE GLASS AND BONDOW ITS REAL ABS AND IF YOU BRAKE IT AGAIN ITS NO MORE DIFICULT TO FIX ANOTHER TIME, HIT AS MANY ROCKS AS YOU LIKE AS IT'S A SNAP TO FIX, GASSS IS A HASEL AND IT DOSENT STAY ON THE ABS VEHICLS IF YOU WANT IT TOO , BUT IS TOUGH TO REMOVE IF SOME BOZO PUT IT ON BEFORE, THATS WHY ITS HARDER TO REFIX THE MACHINES WHEN THEY HAVE BIN BUGGERD UP WITH GLASS, GLASS DOSENT FLEX LIKE THE ABS, DON'T FOLOW THE IDEOTS WHO HAVE BUGGERD UP THE MACHINE BEFOR YOU, I STREATEND OUT MY FRIENDS SHAPPERAL AND IT HAD SOME BONDOW AND GLASS BEFORE , IT JUST MAKES IT LOOK GOOD, IT WILL FALL OUT IF YOU DRIVE IT, ITS NOT REPAIRED . ITS JUST AS BROKEN UP AS BEFOR THE JUNK WAS PUT ON, ONLY PRITYER, (PROBLY JUST TO SELL IT )
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Dano

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Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 10:43 pm:   

Just dug an old Chaparral out of the local bone yard. Body sticker says it's an MK-1. She was loaded to the gills with beer cans, only 2 tires were holding air, 339cc JLO was sitting on the ground next to her , locked up!!! It had the original motor mount and clutch on it so we brought it along for good measure. One set of wheels would turn ,the other wouldn't. The 20 dollar bill he was askin for seemed a little steep!! But I just couldn't leave her there!!! I quickly started searching for info via the net, and a local rehab expert ,and started testing and checking parts. WD 40 got all the chains loose.
The T-20 trans seemed to work as we pulled her behind my pickup truck . Brakes locked, drive pully would turn when the levers were engaged foward.The frame had little rust and was still 90% grey paint with small rusted areas. Looking good so far!!!! Bought an old Polaris 398cc from a guy at work for $45 that had run 2 years ago when he plucked it from an old sled. Needless to say 2 weeks after I saved her she was diggin grass . What a Riot !!!!! Now the restoration begins.
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Joel Haslett (Rustyjeep)

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Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 10:43 pm:   

Neat story Dano,We have collected a few old 6x6s over the past couple of years. One Attex we found in the winter. It was half full of ice and had 4 flat tires.It was quite a job to haul that one home! My kids are working on a few of them and have them on the way together now. I never have seen a Chaparral around this part of the country. Can you post any pictures? Good luck and keep us posted on your progress.
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Dano

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Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 10:43 pm:   

Guys,
Just came from the garage and am kinda scratchin' my head a little on this body repair deal. I'm missing a pretty large chunk of the engine cover, and another piece that would run right along the engine cover, nice rounded molded ABS will be hard to duplicate!! What chance am I going to have in finding some donor parts??? It's lookin like the Chaparral is about the least common of these machines to find. Should I just do my own thing behind the rear seat, or struggle to keep her as original as possible??? Will these machines become collectables?? Penny for your thoughts guys!!! Dano
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Richard/SIA

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Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 10:43 pm:   

Chararrel 2J progress.

Looks like all tires may be salvagable, got the recoil starter fixed, electric appears to be dead.

No spark, really need to know how to time this beast, adjust points, and WHICH wire gets the 12V power for ignition?
JLO Rockwell engine.

Body is pretty broken up and plastic is very brittle, lots of UV radiation at 6,000' in Nevada!

I am considering making a new body in fiberglass, or maybe diamond plate aluminum?

I DO want it to float when I get it done, NV Game Department says I can use it to hunt ducks if I register it as a boat first.
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Bill Davis (Nvbigblue)

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Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 10:43 pm:   

Richard,
I live in Dayton and have a MAX II with the JLO 295 engine. I didn't see what size engine you have, but I'll bet they all used the same setup. I'll draw up a schematic for you this weekend if I get a chance. It's nice to see someone else from NV has one of these things.....when we get 'em running we can have our own little jamboree!
Bill
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Eric

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Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 10:43 pm:   

I have a Ateex Superchief 500. The motor is a Chaparral. Does anyone know where I can get parts. THe rest of the atv is in excellent shape, just need a motor. Would like to repair the Chaparral 500 motor.
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pete6x6

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Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 10:43 pm:   

Eric,

I'd contact Richard Clark. If he does not have the parts look on snowmobile sites because the engines we use are also used by snowmobiles.
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Pete Cagle (Petec)

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Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 10:43 pm:   

what parts are you looking for
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Chris Z

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Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 10:43 pm:   

Hi Guys,
I just picked up a Chaparral last week to use with my boys (8 & 5yo). I don't know the model or year but the ser# is 00748 and it looks exactly like the one in the museum section, white w/ red stripes. It's a surprise xmas present for "US". I used to have an Attex when I was a kid and always had a blast going out with my dad so I think they'll really enjoy it too. Now, my question is it has a Borg-Warner t20 which happens to be devoid of any lubricant and so I was wondering exactly what goes in there- 90wt or ?.
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pete6x6

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Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 10:43 pm:   

Chris,

The t-20 uses a quart of dextron tranny fluid. Don't use anything else.
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Fred Sowerwine, Montana's Max Dealer (Fred4dot)

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Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 10:43 pm:   

And chris, only fill it to the check level plug (lower left side). Have tranny level and let "all that will run out", run out. It takes a while for the fluid from the fill plug on the upper right to get through all the baffles and gears to the lower left side. A suction device, with a real small hose (1/4"), is the best way to get old oil out of the T-20.

If the t-20 is really empty, check for leaks at the o rings on the plungers, at the output shafts or the seam between the two halves.
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Chris Z

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Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 10:43 pm:   

Pete and Fred,
Thank you, thank you VERY much!
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REGGIE A ZERCHER

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Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 10:43 pm:   

HELLO NEW TO THE 6 WHEELER THING. I JUST GOT A CHAPARRAL 6 WHEELER IN A TRADE IT HAS A ROCKWELL 18 HP. IN IT GOT IT IN THE SHOP NOW GETTING THE CARB. CLEANED OUT IT HAD A SKIP IN IT CAN ANYONE TELL ME ANYTHING ABOUT THIS ATV IS IT HARD TO COME BY ARE THEY WORTH ANYTHING ARE THEY FUN SHOULD I KEEP IT OR SELL IT??????????????????????????????????? PLEASE E MAIL ME AND LET ME KNOW THANKS FOR YOUR TIME RATFINK@AOL.COM
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David Stone

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Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 10:43 pm:   

I think I have a chaparral, It has a 295 JLO and a T20 . the picture in the museum photos dont really let me see enough to tell, found some other pics but still cant tell..Could someone email me a picture of theirs so I can compare? Im new into 6x6s and have a bunch of questions, found out a bunch just by reading this forum..Thanks to all of you for your help..Oh yeah if you can take better pictures than the ones posted, email me a couple so I can know for sure what the heck i got...lol..... stonemo@hotmail.com
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randall R Baldauf

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Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 10:43 pm:   

Just bought a chaparral 6X6. SN # 00178. Where do I go to find info out on this baby? Are tires available? Can I adapt atv tires and rims to these hubs?. The guy said it ran two years ago but the ignition switch is busted and I got no spark. What wire should I be hotwiring to get this thing to run so my wife gets off my back? It was garage kept and used at a summer home so I don't think it has alot of hours. How much is it worth? Thanks Randy
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david berger (Davidrrrd)

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Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 10:43 pm:   

AAAAAAAARRRRRRRGGGGHHHHH!!!!!
!DONT' HOT WIRE ANYTHING!!!!!
IT'S RUN FROM A MAGNITO AND THE ENGINE WILL RUN WITOUT ANY CONECTIONS TO THE REST OF YOUR ATV!
YOU CAN RECHARGE YOUR BATERY FOR THE ELECTRICK STARTER MOTOR WITH THE CHARGING CIRCUT FROM MOTOR, OR RUN LIGTS BUT MOTOR NEEDS ONLT A GROUNG WIRE FROM LAWN TRACTOR KEY SWITCH TO THE COIL TO STOP IT FROM RUNNING,
OUTSIDE OF THAT THERE IS NO NESESARY WIREING,
UNPLUG THE WIRES FROM MOTER THAT DON'T DIRECTLY GO TO COIL AND SEE IF IT WILL SPARK FOR YOU, YOU MAY NEED A NEW PLUG, AND PULL IT OVER WITH THE PULL STARTER WITH THE PLUG OUT TO CHECK SPARK,
SOME TIMES YOU CAN EVEN GET DIRTY POINTS TO CLEAN UP NUFF THIS WAY TOO!
BUT NEVER NEVER ADD 12V POSITIVE TO ANY THING LIKE YOUR COIL DUDE THIS AINT LIKE A CAR IGNITION!
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brandon kline

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Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 10:43 pm:   

i just bought a 77 chaparral with a onan nhc industrial engine and a miniature roots supercharger has large axles a full bottom and sides metal skidplates .t 20 trans its built better than anyone ive ever seen .would like to find a sprocket for it
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Brian Greathead

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Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 10:43 pm:   

I just got a older swamp fox that has been painted over i believe. I was wondering if any one knew who made the model swamp fox and what years they were produced. thanks bill, brian
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chaparral

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Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 10:43 pm:   

Hi there everyone. I'm new to this message board so I'll just try to jump right in. Can anyone direct me to where I might find more specific info on the chaparral 6x6? I'm looking for original decal and paint schemes. I have a 1969 chap in new condition, would like to put new decals, and striping. Would like to keep it original. Please e-mail me at tdja@cpinternet.com I do have the manual and some other papers if anyone is in need of some info. Thanks, Terry
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bob rogers

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Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 10:43 pm:   

can anyone explain to me how a magnito works and what I should check for to verify that it is operational?... I have a Kawaski 160 engine..

thnks for any info..
bob
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Jeremy Cherry
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Posted on Sunday, August 19, 2007 - 11:41 pm:   

I am a new owner of a chaparral it is my first 6x6 it is bad shape but restorable so if anybody has any tips or suggestions let me know
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Don Kinyon
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Posted on Monday, August 20, 2007 - 11:45 am:   

Hi, Jeremy;

I don't have a Chaparral now, but I had one a while back. The only real drawback I found about the machine was the very thin ABS body. I had to do some patching to make it water tight. The drive train is similar to a Max or Attex: both decent machines.

I didn't care for the "shim" method for adjusting the main drive chains from the transmission, so I welded on some adjusters on the slack side of the chains. This made the maintenance a lot easier.

The stock 295 engine had been replaced by a four-stroke in the machine I had, but I ended up installing a Chaparral (Xenoah) 440 twin. That pushed the machine right along.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=LMjwbotNihQ

If I can be any help, I'd be glad to.
Don
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Richard Clark
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Posted on Monday, August 20, 2007 - 05:32 pm:   

Jeremy

Don is correct the Chaparral was a decent machine, some were ABS some were fiberglass bodied.

You should be able to upgrade and improve the machine to make it more reliable. A 4 cycle engine like Don's, will really improve it.

We have many parts and will be happy to help you.
The T-20 manual is posted on this site ROUTE6x6 under section called T-20. Find this from the ROUTE6x6 HOME page.

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Jeremy Cherry
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Posted on Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 12:06 am:   

Thanks Don and Richard Richard I called yesterday and got some prices, and Ill be making an order soon, it has the 440 in it but the wiring is all screwed up, I am tearing it completely down and restoring it from the ground up im new to this so sorry if I sound dumb but I am having a hard time getting the axles off
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Richard Clark
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Posted on Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 11:18 am:   

Jeremy

Call us and we will talk you through it, you may find it helpful to read ROUTE6x6's sections called
HINTS and TIPS

Thanks
Richard Clark
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See my ATV parts website (listed below) for more ATV parts.
I have the world's largest supply of new, used and reproduction
AATV parts. We have most parts for most machines. Please call
on phone for details.

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For your protection we only accept credit cards by telephone authorization.


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Richard Clark
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ROUTE6x6
4846 Quarry Rd
New Albany IN 47150
812-944-1643 8am- 6pm Eastern Time Monday-Friday only

Please NOTE EXTENDED HOURS

PLEASE NOTE: THE ABOVE ADDRESS IS FOR MAIL and SHIPPING USE ONLY,
I keep no machines or parts at the above address. Also there
are no business hours at the above address.

Visit my ATV parts website at:
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