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matthew smith
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Last year I went on the cal.4wheel winter fun fest, this is for 4x4 owners,I think we all should start winter fest for atv owners and 6x6 owners, this year they have river bottom games again,this on 1/14/2001 I will be there with my max4 like to see other riders there? let me know my e-mail address is clocks@jps.net I will give you directions it is in grass valley ca.meeting place for the 4wheelers is at the nevada county fair grounds the river bottom games are off of red dog road at greenhorn creek. |
matthew smith
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Does any one know about riding on pismo beach in cal. I know its a state park and if you can camp there? |
matthew smith
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Hi carmen (virusdog) sounds like a good trip to pismo,I have a sister that lives down there another reason for going there,how does your max perform in the sand compare to your quad? maybe this next summer we can ride on pismo beach,do they lots of sand dunes?miles?matt. |
carmen cafro
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Matt, my old 86 max works exelent in the sand and is even more fun than my quad. I'm there! But we need a bunch of 6 wheel people. Lets pick a date and spread the word. Carmen |
matthew smith
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Hi carmen I will try for pismo this summer? another place is death valley it would be ok in the winter,have you ever been there? I was there when I was 10, I will keep checking the web for riding places some where in the middle of the state, do you have tracks for your max? matt. |
matthew smith
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Just a reminder that the river bottom games are coming up in less than two weeks,its on january 14th in grass valley,from hiway 49 to brunswick road,head east to Idaho maryland road turn left (north) follow that till you get to red dog road turn right and follow till you get to the river green horn creek,need better directions? e-mail me at clocks@jps.net see you there. matt |
Brian Dolen (Bdizzy)
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where are the rides in Cali, its 2002 now and
all those posts are years old!!!! whats going
on this year fellas. are there any 6x6 races or
festivals comming up this summer? |
Tony
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I'm in bay area california with a 20horse max 2. I rode some of the rubicon, stonyford and stuff and never see any other 6x6. Is there anyone in california with a 6x6, let me know at bigboybfg@aol.com
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matthew smith
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I am interested in going on the rubicon,any one else would like to go on a rubicon trail? this sounds like a good weekend camping trip, we should go so before summer ends, or wait for the snow to fall and put our tops on and tracks on and make it a snow trip? waiting for a reply. matt |
matthew smith
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Winter fun fest is coming up in the middle of this month, also the river bottom games are also the same weekend, this is in grass valley ca. put your snow tracks on! |
chris davison
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Ive been on the rubicon many times .Big tires low crawler gear ratios and lots of ground clearance and articulation are needed. of course a couple of hundred ponies are useful for those 40 inch tall boulders in the middle of the road you cant go around. Camping at the back of loon lake is fantastic so is the fishing and when the lake is low its nice to drive out of the water to your camp site and not have to lug the ice chest.
Its closed during the winter. |
chris davison
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Ive been on the rubicon many times .Big tires low crawler gear ratios and lots of ground clearance and articulation are needed. of course a couple of hundred ponies are useful for those 40 inch tall boulders in the middle of the road you cant go around. Camping at the back of loon lake is fantastic so is the fishing and when the lake is low its nice to drive out of the water to your camp site and not have to lug the ice chest.
Its closed during the winter. |
dakota
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actualy get in touch with Don at 4 season argo in Carson City NV. they did take a couple agro conquests on the Rubicon trail , and have some video to prove it . Looked like they did the trail with very few problems too |
Damen T.Hill (Argoss)
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hey everyone, im here in cali and want to get a ride together on this side of the country,i was thinking maybe the oregon dunes state park in oregon, i have done some checking 6x6s are allowed as long as there licenced in there home state as an atv and meet the state safty requiremints. there is camping at or near the the state park . so let me know if one wants to get together this summer? i have a couple 6x6er's and an 8x8'er that said that they would join me so let me know
damen |
dakota
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What part of California are you in? I'm in nortern Nevada . Maybe a ride some where in the Sierra Nevada mountain range would be more comvenient for all of us out west . |
Damen T.Hill (Argoss)
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I am in Grass Valley it is below trucke california, though currently my argo is down for major repairs (do to a damn horse)I left it sitting in the yard for maybe 15 minutes max and when I came back it had NO seats left in it.Stupid horse riped all the seats out.SO It is getting brand new seats From argo I'm getting woodlands camo seats, And my sister is paying for it! which is Even better!! |
dakota
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good then you are fairly close to Reno then , I know of many trials along the Nevada and California border , up north of Verdi . good mix of dessert and forest terrain . I'm sure with a few more trips out there I could map a loop that would make a good trail ride for a group to go on . How does this sound? |
matthew smith
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Sounds like a good idea, is there an a off road park close by somewhere off of I-80 in ca.? damen I have heard that 6 wheeler does not do that well in sand,but does a hole lot better in wet sand, Maybe you should try the sand mountain in nevada before you go all the way to oregon, I have not tried mine in sand yet!? I would like to see a ride going, even if its for one day? talk to you all later. matt |
matthew smith
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Sounds like a good idea, is there an a off road park close by somewhere off of I-80 in ca.? damen I have heard that 6 wheeler does not do that well in sand,but does a hole lot better in wet sand, Maybe you should try the sand mountain in nevada before you go all the way to oregon, I have not tried mine in sand yet!? I would like to see a ride going, even if its for one day? talk to you all later. matt |
dakota
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actually these machines suck in climbing dunes.I have been out to sand mountain.You can have fun in the small dunes , but will never generate the wheel speed it takes to climb the main dune.Unless you go out there in the middle of the winter after a storm and the dune is frozen solid then it will climb right up , but you will freeze you but off.The area I was thinking of is on public land. The hard part is choosing a route that isn't to boring for the experienced rider , or to scary for the novice |
dakota
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actually these machines suck in climbing dunes.I have been out to sand mountain.You can have fun in the small dunes , but will never generate the wheel speed it takes to climb the main dune.Unless you go out there in the middle of the winter after a storm and the dune is frozen solid then it will climb right up , but you will freeze you but off.The area I was thinking of is on public land. The hard part is choosing a route that isn't to boring for the experienced rider , or to scary for the novice |
David Keeso (Argomag)
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Actually your a bit wrong. On a 6x6, not sure about 8x8, but if you remove the two middle wheeles, the machine will actually climb the dune. I don't know how or why but a good friend tried it and it worked wonders. It may be a bit of work but honestly, how hard is it to pop off some nuts on the wheeles and throw them in the back for a while? thats what I thought. they are easy to put back on, so go for it! |
David Keeso (Argomag)
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Why are the posts getting repeated and reposted word for word? |
Damen T.Hill (Argoss)
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I have heard of the ohv park off I-80 passed it once looks very nice. I have heard about argos in sand But what about with tracks? I can get a hold of a hydro traxx with tracks or a 8x8 conquesrt with dullys on it so for me if my 6x6 argo won't climb dunes its a ten minute drvie to a hydrotraxx with tracks.has any body ever tried dullys on a 6x6? my grandfather. has a conquest 8x8 with dullys and it has no problem on sand I have driven it in the nevada sand it seems to have no problem but the argo 6x6s with no tracks or dullys seem to dig themselves in to 6 neat little holes. let me know
thanks damen |
Dave Johnston
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As one who was with DON at 4 SEASONS ARGO in CARSON CITY on the Rubicon Trail, I can share some facts and info. Getting there was a pain. We started from the WEST side, next time I think the EAST side would be easier. MOST of the JEEPS were starting from the WEST side also, and it appears going WEST TO EAST is easier. (The Jeeps were Dealer demo JEEP RUBICONS and they were getting dented up.) TIRES are important. I had the standard tires and had a lot of easily repaired flats. Don had the upgrade tires and had fewer problems. The front winch was nice but I did not have one and did not need one. If you do some of the harder routes...the winch comes in handy. I did not bring my outboard... there are a couple of nice lakes there and it would have been fun to do a spin around them. DO NOT use sun tan lotion...
better to use long pants and sleeves and a hat. I looked like a dirty baby in my shorts, t-shirt and sun tan lotion. Not everyone needs to carry a full set of tools and parts... divide up the work and cargo. BRING A CAMERA.. And be ready to wait for the "slower than molasses" Jeeps to get out of your way. Contact DON in Carson City if you want to be in the next Rubicon Run. It is a blast. |
matthew smith
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Every wednesday on cable tv the outdoor channel the lineup starts with atv tv it always covers quads never a 6x6 or 8x8, I e-mailed them about the lack of other atv's or trac atv's maybe if a number of e-mailers asking them to add these other atv's to there show, and if you like four wheeling? The next half hour is for you, but that gets old to, Same old drivers, They need some input from its veiwers, it needs some veiwer stories and there tapes! these two shows are on from 6pm to 7pm on wednesdays, you can mail in your voice. goto
www.atvtv.com Matt In grass valley ca. |
Damen T.Hill (Argoss)
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Hey matt,
As you know I am in grass valley and live pratically down the street. I was wondering If you would like yo get together at green horn on a upcoming weekend Would have to be sunday probably. I want to try my argo out down there and it would be nice to have another 6x'er with me ( also maybe a tow if my opionated old techupsa engine gets overheated) woulden't
belive it but it can overheat in a snow storm with heavy cold winds with no hood on it.Its a cast iorn block if ya can't tell.
let me know soon.
damen |
dakota
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sounds good sunday is good , like june 15 or 22. let me know what you think . i have never been to green horn , I have my california permit so all i need is directions to the trail head, feel free to e-mail me direct if you want too . |
matthew smith
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How about june 8th is that possible, dakoda? also where are coming from? I can give you directions, let me know? matt. Also what will you driving in the creek? anyone else interested in this ride? we can set any date! |
Damen T.Hill (Argoss)
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Yeah we could work that I am sure. Green horn's nice it is one hell of a huge gravel pit with a river in the winter and an a large creek in the summer with some nice pools to float in in some spots! it consist's of steap banks in some spots and little hills in others and pits and if you can think it its there no mud though:( let's get this planed! looking forward to meeting another route 6x6'er! |
dakota
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i wish I could do the 8th but , I'm getting sent out of town for work that week.I'm coming from sparks Nevada. the 15th or the 22nd are still opne in my schedule . |
matthew smith
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The 15th looks good that is fathers day! Dakoda the best way to get there is to come down I-80 to colfax an exit 174 to grass valley just to let know you are getting close you will pass chicago park keep going,couple miles futher you will pass rollins lake greenhorn access road on the right,keep going just about a mile or so you wiil turn right on you bet road follow that till you cross greenhorn creek make your next left it run along the creek this goes throw hansen brothers gravel pit then you come upon greenhorn creek that is where we will be! now to set a date and time? |
dakota
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The 15th is good here , I can be there by 9 am . Hopefully a few others that read this will show up too. |
Damen T.Hill (Argoss)
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Can do the 15th but I can't be there until noon. but I will be there So what type of aatv do you have dakota? lets all meet at the acsess road. I was out there yesterday just kicking it with my sis and her boyfriend and my mother looks like its going to be good 6x6ing. Oh...and dakota are you trailering or carrying your aatv in the back of a pickup? because if your carrying it in a pickup bed You will need ramps or a bank to unload it.I am carrying mine in the back of a 1 ton pickup and don't have ramps so hopfully I can find a bank or ramps It will be a damn differnt ride down ramps never done it. have gone up them but,they where just like 4x4 posts on peeler cores I made to play balance the argo its really hard but it can be done. but never loaded it in to the bed of a pickup. is it hard?
Can't wait to meet you guys!
let me know!!
damen |
David Keeso (Argomag)
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Damen with the truck and ramps, its no big deal. As long as your ramps are A) long enough to get up and in, 2) if your truck bed has the wheel hubs in the bed, you may want to check width and see if the ss will fit in. Usually, ramps have to be built over the hubs and then a system with drive up ramps has to be made. If this is the case, than you need a bracket that fits together so that the ramps over the hubs, and the drive on ramps lock together to get the argo on. When you are loading up, take is nice and slow and when the ARGO pivots on its middle wheel, be ready to stop to avoid going through the back window. Do not- NOT, NOT brake much unloading though. The weight in the front of the argo and the brakes are a bad combo. If you hit the brakes on the way out, as it is pivoting from flat to angled, the front could go right over. The best sulution is to anchor a eye hook or something in the front of the bed of the truck and if you have a winch (don't remember seeing one on the pictures) let some cable out, just enough to let you back the argo enough to be just about at the pivot point and then just push it (make it so the cable tightens up just as the argo is about to pivot and start going down. Then winch down. No matter what, anchor your drive on planks to something so they don't move at all no matter what. The last thing you want is that the weight of the argo, moves the boards and the argo falls off, if you can imagine that happening, ( i can only picture myself doing this- more than once) than you will ensure every step is taken. I never considered the bank thing, but it may be a good idea. Check the site out first and then you know what you'll find and where you can unload.
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Dave Johnston
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It seems to me.... That if you put an anchor on the front of the pickup bed, and release the tailgate of the truck so it hangs down to the bumper and a few strategically placed blocks of wood...you could use the winch to LIFT the front of the ARGO to the point the FRONT wheels make contact with the tailgate, then do a combination of driving forward AND wenching and get the ARGO into the pickup bed WITHOUT using a ramp. However the point made about the ARGO suddenly tilting forward on the wheel wells and going thru the rear window is a GOOD one. One COULD make a ramp from the back of the bed up at a 30-45 degree angle towards the TOP of the cab and carry the ARGO slanted on the back of the truck. This would KEEP it out of the truck bed and away from the window. It would certainly keep the ARGO from coming forward into the cab if you hit something hard while driving the truck. It would also give you a large wedge shaped storage area in the truck bed UNDER the ARGO. Don't know about you, but I always seem to need more cargo space. |
David Keeso (Argomag)
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Dave, good points made, however, as we all know, the ARGO holding brakes won't hold that much pressure unless they are tightened up. You would still have to have an anchor point for the whinch to hold the vehicle up on the ramp, or have a stopper type thing that raises up to hold the vehicle in place. What you are talking about is like the trucks that carry the cars, not the double decker ones though. They are only one level with a long ramp on them and it goes over the cab. That would also eliminate the pivoting as you mentioned. However, As I said, their has to be a way to stop the argo from rolling back and just an anchor alone won't do it. maybe one at the back too, but only if you have a winch on the back or a really strong strap that won't break. |
David Keeso (Argomag)
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Dave, one thing I forgot to mention, it would take more than just a few strategicallyplaced blocks. You would have to have enough to get the ARGO about half way between ground level and the bed level or you would be placing huge force on the tailgate and bumper. NOt to mention, the winch may not take too much of that after a while. (the cable not the motor itself)I also think if its not done a few times to practice, one could easily screw up and end up with the argo upside down and them in rough shape. |
Damen T.Hill (Argoss)
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i load and unload my argo using banks it works really good, But my one ton pickup is only a two wheel drive and it gets really light arsed when you unload the argo so it likes to bury its self in gravel,so i have to use ramps at the river to unload. And yes david I can imagine going through the rear window almost did that earlyer!
My argo has to sit with one side on the inner finder and one side on the bed and yeah you do get a little more storage space it is just kinda scary when it slips on one side off the inner finder and goes thud in to the bed did that earlyer to! I am going to make some ramps that fit in between the cab and finder wells to make the argo sit even in the bed, it sits at an angle in the bed now. well i will post pictures of the ride later!
damen |
mike martindale (Wetsu)
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i don't know if this will help.....but before i got my trailer,i used to carry my bigfoot in the back of my 94 chevy cheyenne. i made ramps from those treated landscape timbers,( 2 nailed side x side 4 total).then i used 2x6's 2 across the bed,and 2 that started mid-way on the fender wells and went to the front of the bed.then i took 2 8x8 blocks 2' long and put them just behind the wells.then when you load up you don't have the sudden tilt forwrd or back.and the machine rides over the rear window,and rides level.then you shut the tailgate and it holds it in just fine.this will work on full size beds. |
Damen T.Hill (Argoss)
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so dakota and matt smith,
are we for sure meeting down at greenhorn this sunday? meeting time is most likly neogiatable on my side.
let me know
damen |
matthew smith
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Damen I will be there in the morning somewhere between 9 am and 10 am. Do you need the ramps again or does dakota have ramps that is going to use? I will be at the same place! matt |
Damen T.Hill (Argoss)
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yeah i need the ramps, can probably do 10 am but i will call you saterday evening and confirm that. later
damen |
dakota
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Today turned out to be a great ride up a the Green horn.2 ,6 wheelers was all the wae there till the afternoon when all the dirt bikers started showing up . Matthew Smith and I did manage to find a technical area trying to get across a dam that was put across the stream just to stop people like us . We did get across with no external assistance from the winch going with the water flow of the stream , coming back going against the current was a different story. We did get over the dam with use of the winches , and a few scrapes on the machines.My scrapes where on the top just above the air inlet for the blower. No biggie , gives the bigfot some caractor |
matthew smith
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Well went for a fathers day ride today with dakota from nevada we tried to make it over a broken concrete wall in the river had no problem going down stream over the wall,floatable water on both sides of the wall, first the rider with me with his argo made it first so before I went down stream I told him to see if he would make it back over the wall going up stream, he had to be winched so I went over the wall tried to go up stream over the wall and I could not make it, so I had to be winched,I also carry an air compresser and a tow strap the story off the strap comes later, it can be a life saver or your down fall! dakota has some battle scars on his argo tring to get back over the wall, on each side off the creek is canyon walls I tried to go over the wall on the end where it meets the canyon wall just about made it, but just about flip over it was to steap, futher down stream was rollins lake we did not make it! there was only one hill that I made that the argo did not make the rest of the time he was right with me. three hours later in our ride,the tow strap that I had tied down at the end of the back seat that saved us getting back over the wall made its way down into the drive chain and I lost a chain, after removing the mess of rope,I had only the right side to drive back the the trailer witch was just around the next bend in the river. take it from me,put any loose items in a bag or something to keep from falling throw the floor board, overall it was a fun and challening ride but we need more rides, next time I try to go over this wall I will bring my ramps! One thing riding in the river no dust! |
Tony
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Hey. Is anyone interested in riding the rubicon? I have done some of it in my max and it is easy enough (few scratches under, but nothing deep, or serious) I know its a few days trail, so its a camping trip. Let me know. |
dakota
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Tony call the Argo dealer in Carson City NV. they are planning a trip up there this sunday the 13th.the number is 775-884-4807. i know I'm planning on being there myself , my number is in the owners list |
matthew smith
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Hi tony and dakoda when is this ride to start? and are planing to camp out? and where is the starting place, are you going thru the whole trail ? I have never been there, will one tank of gas last the trip? it is possible that I can make it, so many Questions?? I will check later. thanks Matt Smith, Grass Valley |
SUPER DAVE
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RUBICON TRAIL. Don at ARGO WORLD headed up a trip this week (11-12 AUG 2004) We started at the Lake Tahoe side and went to Loon Lake, returning the next day. We started with a group of 10 ARGOS, three COOTS, and one JEEP Wrangler. We ended with a group of 6 ARGOS. The Jeep, IMO is the only one that dropped out due to inability to do it. Wrong tires is the main reason. Don's advice to pump up tire pressure saved us a LOT of flats and dented rims this trip. No one else had to quit due to breakdowns or inability to get down the trail but we did have a number drop out due to desire not to continue. Also, I though the six-wheeled ARGOS were at a disadvantage but they did just fine, keeping right us with us and at times, leading the pack. We got lots of pictures including one of a COOT having to winch the COOT with the trailer up Million Dollar Hill. We were all interested in the COOT because of the trailer. Who never wishes for more storage/carrying capacity? Well, even the COOT driver commented what a pain it was. (Without trailers, the other two COOTS did just fine.) We could certainly tell it denied him the option of backing down the hill and trying a different approach. I highly recommend a rack sticking off the back of the ARGO or one built over the hood if you want more storage. Whatever you do, TIE YOUR STUFF DOWN! Bottom line, I had a great time and wish to thank DON at ARGO WORLD for getting everyone together for this terrific ride... |
dakota
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This years trip on the rubicon was a great adventure indeed.Our group didn't just go over the trail in one direction in fact we started in tahoe and went to Loon lake , then turned around and did the trail again to get back to our cars parked at the staging area. So technicly speaking the rubicon trail was done twice. Unfortunatly my riding partner didn't like the heat of the summer out on the rocks , so I turned around just sort of loon lake. By just sort I mean like 1/2 mile sort , we still did all the obsticals and challenges on the trial twice. This way we ended up camping closer to home and would have the trail completed by mid morning. On the return trip we did come across 2 other Argo's that called it quits just after cadalac hill. They joined up with us for the return trip back to the staging area. Once home and showered off The only damage was a few bug bits on me and a sun burn on my partner. The Agro had no damage at all , just due for it's 200hr service before it's next adventure. |
wilbur
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the Rubicon Trial is truly the grand daddy of them all when it comes to off road trails. Don at Four Seasons Argo and ODG hope to make this a annual event. The Rubicon is the best place I know of to put a machine (and driver) to the test.All companies that
make ATV's should run this trail and then decide if it is truly an ALL TERAIN VECHICLE. The ARGO is |
tug
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im hoping to get with you guys,where and when next? |
Wilbur (Unregistered Guest)
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The date four the 2nd annual Rubicon Trail ride has
been set for August 10th & 11th, 2005. If anyone would like to go with us contact Don Jones at Four
Seasons Argo in Carson City, NV. The number is 775-
884-4807 |
Matt Cross
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I'll be running the rubicon again this year . Probably have a different riding partner but it's all good. Matt Smith if you are still intrested let us know .Everbody is welcome ,the important thing is to be prepaired for anything |
Matt Cross
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I've sent e-mail to all who say they want to run the rubicon this year .Hopefully we get a good response . Jeep owners will drive cross country to run this trail . This trail is famous for being the most difficult trail in America.Have your doubts then come out and ride it for yourself.This is not some 100 acre atv park .It is 12 miles of pioneer trail .Keep in mind it will take about 12 hours each way to ride .Thats rite 12 hrs. Your gps will be sitting at 1mph or less most of the distance |
matthew smith (Unregistered Guest)
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Hi matt I am interested in going, is there security for our hauling or towing vehicles for those 2 days or so?
Thanks Matt |
Matt Cross
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The staging area is just a big parking lot .No security just locked everything that I didn't want to wander off.No body had anything stolen the last year. The remote location helps also the staging area is a few miles from the main loop that circles lake tahoe,in fact if you know where the turn is you still miss it half the time . |
Matt Cross
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Argo factory web site now has some info on this years Rubicon trip and a couple photos. I'm still trying to e-mail my pics to route6x6 but I'm having problems compressing the size of the file to a size that can be e-mailed.The trip is slowly atarting to take shape .If you are interested don't hesistate in contacting the leader of the trip .His link is also on the Argo web site |
Matt Cross
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Just took a trip up to Rubicon trial to see if all the snow had melted yet .Well still no access to the staging area at the trial head . Spring storms dumped really heavy this year. Probably won't be melted till july .Good news with all the snow maybe the trial won't be very dusty this year.Remeber Augest 10-11 is the anual ride |
Dave Johnston (Unregistered Guest)
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ARGO RUBICON RUN....Just this past AUG 10-11. Whow what a trip. Seems our run of last year must have scared off all the non-Argo machines and this year it was pure Argo. We started with 10 machines and all made it thru. Nine were 8 wheelers and one was a 6 wheeler. Considering this year was a lot rougher and harder than last year, the 6 wheeler again surprised us with its awesome performance. The heavy snow pack in the Sierra Nevadas and surrounding areas caused a lot of changes in the Rubicon Trail, turning what was once rock and hard pack dirt into loose rock and soft sand. We saw one Jeep do a 360 roll over on Million Dollar hill as well as a Toyota and Suzuki roll onto their sides. Fortunately due to the superior off road abilities of the Argos, we were able to bypass the traffic jams resulting from the roll overs and go around the back upped vehicles. Argo sent a film crew with us, as well a a mechanic but other than some flat tires, we had few problems. (Not that a flat tire on a 8 wheel drive machine is a real problem.) The Argo factory also had a nice, a GREAT dinner waiting for us at Loon Lake. Chicken, beef brisket, corn bread, beans, salad and drinks of all kinds. There was so much food we all could eat twice and still had left overs. Some of us took the time to wash off our machines by spinning in the lake, much to the envy of the Jeep owners. The only down side was getting lost, so next year I am bring a paint ball gun with yellow balls to mark the trail. No more getting lost in the middle of no where!!. If you missed this year, you have GOT to make it next year, if for no other reason than to watch the 4x4s struggle down the trail! |
Matt Cross
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Lost Again ?That is the second year in a row .The worste part is you had a fresh set of Argo Bigfoot tracks left on the trail just 3 hours ahead of you .I porposly distintly left 90 degree turns and donunts marks at the important trial intersections.Skid steer tracks are very distint and can be seen even when a jeep or 2 had driven over part of them.Reading this makes me very glad I went a day early .Of coarse actually doing alittle research to know the trail ahead of time to prevent something like that from happening in the first place. Made for a very enjoyable and even peaceful trip of one man and his argo concoring the rubicon trial in only 6 hours each direction .Meaning I was loaded back on my trialer at high noon .Home eating a good home cooked meal by 5 . |
Dave Johnston (Unregistered Guest)
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ADDENDUM....Matt states "went a day early" but also states "a fresh set of Argo Bigfoot tracks left on the trail just 3 hours ahead of you." Which is it? He was there the day before or he was 3 hours ahead of us? If he went a day early and was packed up by noon, then his tracks would be at least 18 hours old, not three. If I had any doubts he was lying about his story, this confirms it. |
Dave Johnston (Unregistered Guest)
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Humm..Matt...One wonders why you did not join the group in the Argo Rubicon Run. Some of our members slept over night at the staging area in Homewood. At the Loon Lake end was the Argo factory rep. No one saw you, your tow vehicle or your Argo. Also if you did each direction in 6 hours and were back loading onto your trailer at noon, you must have left at midnight. While it may be possible to do the trail in 6 hours during the day without ever stopping, doing it at night in 6 hours is impossible. Also if you were in and out so fast how come none of us ever saw you going either direction? In regards to your claim of marking the trail with donuts, you obviously do not know that the Rubicon has some areas of hard flat rock where there are thousands of different directions to go, as well as several routes in and out at Loon Lake. Lastly, everyone we encountered going both directions wanted to talk about our machines as they had not seen one before. If you were ahead of us, how come they were so amazed when they saw our group? Matt, I think you are blowing smoke. If you were there, you must have the only Stealth Argo ever made. |
Matt Cross
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simple answer for you .Parked my truck at the bottem of loon lake damn .rite next to another truck with a flat bed trailer .Started the trail at 10:30 am .Rode to the last lake one the trial or the first lake you see on the left when leaving tahoe.arrived there around 4:30 turned around because I knew it is just flat road between there and the staging area.went back down to rubicon springs to spend the night.camped out ate breakfast and hit the trail back to loon lake at 6 am. the same time guessing here the group probably left the stagging area.thats where the three hours comes in .Didn't hit anytraffic comming towards me till the very end of the trail.So knowing the only other tracks that would have covered mine would have been jeeps that camped on the trail.loaded up at noon and left .Also not since the argo distributer probably wasn't expecting anybody to emerge from the trial till around 6 pm he had no reason to start looking for anybody with an argo .From what little I know about Tom the west coast distributer and considering the road between loon lake and Marrisville I'm guessing he didn't even get up there till 3pm .Last about the people that you talked to one the trail acting like they didn't see me earlier thats simple .Remeber last year a blue argo went totaly wissing .Non of the Jeeps saw that one at all or the 2 other argos that gave up at rubicon springs .yet we where there .Same thing again .I(my opinion most of the jeeps people are wrapped up in keeping uot of trouble in there jeeps that they can't think staight about anything else going on around them .I may not be the best story teller on this page ,but I have the facts showing that I was there dispite not being seen .Thanks to the previos 2 posts,proving why I went solo this year |
matthew smith
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Still watching the board, I was gone two weeks this month or I might have gone to the rubicon ride, need to get away from work and play -(someday) |
Dave J. (Unregistered Guest)
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Matt, in your posts made before the Argo Rubicon Run you sounded eager to be part of the group. But after the run took place, you claim to have done it the day before. Imagine my surprise when I found out later that you had in fact signed up to be a part of the group only to back out at the last minute. Now that you mention the "blue Argo" from the year before, I totally understand your reluctance to do a group ride again, since you did not finish the run the first time. From the description you gave of how you did the solo ride, it is pretty clear you wanted to avoid running into the group so again turned around before completing the entire Rubicon Trail. Backing out of a group ride at the last minute for no good reason is not going to encourage people to make plans with you in the future. This group run was Argo sponsored, with a mechanic and a film crew along for the entire ride and a great meal waiting at the other end. If nothing else you owe them all an apology for the wasted food they had prepared for you. |
Matt Cross
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Dude you are living in a dream world.There are very few people in this world I justify my actions to and they know exactly why I did what I did . As for the other 100's of millions of people on the planet to bad.I don't need a permission or the company of a certain group of people to ride my Argo .I ride because I enjoy the outdoors no more no less. |
christopher j Davison
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Is there going to be another Rubicon run this year 2006 in Aug? In one of my many trips to the rubicon I watched some 2wd quads try to make it they kept bashing thier bottom frame and eng.and finally gave up about 4 miles in. Helped turn a jeep back over on its tires also. Hey has anyone ever been to Glamis with thier Machine? |
Kipp Karavanich
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I would also like to know if there is going to be a Rubicon trip. By the way has anyone verified that the 6 wheelers will do ok in the sand if you take the two middle tires off? I live on the Oregon coast next to 40 miles of dunes and lakes! |
christopher j Davison
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Kip I wonder if a set of paddles on the rear only would give enough traction in the sand and drive in the water. Wouldnt drive on a hard surface with that setup though. Climbing steep dunes is a balance of weight horsepower traction
and momentum. The sand at the beach is very different from the sand in the desert. Moisture content. Ive seen sand like talcom powder in the desert and at least 27 degree dunes. I climbed them at 6000 rpm on my kawasaki 900 atc I built. |
Kipp Karavanich
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Chris,
Just got one of the tigers going, and between the two of them, I have 6 original tires that will hold air. I hope to have a chance this weekend to try it out..I'll let you know.
Kipp |
Richard L. Runyard
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What kind of registration or legal paperwork do you guys in Calif. have for your AATV's to let's say go on the Rubicon? |
Matt Cross
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Actually all you need is a Calif. state ATV permit . They have 3 kinds . One for out of State people . One for 2-strokes . One for 4-strokes cost 20 bucks a year. I have taken my Argo bigfoot over Rubicon a couple of times . For a trial only 12 miles long by the time you get to the other end feels like 120 miles . Then unless you have someone you can depend on to pick you up . You camp and ride the trail the other direction to get to your car. Be careful who you trust with directions while on the trial most don't have a clue where they are and will B.S. just to look smart . Also remeber if you do the camp over night thing , bring a good sleeping bag . This is high altitude and gets really cold at night up there , even in August .
Well have a fun trip |
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