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Dave Beeman (Dave_beeman)

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Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 10:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I keep popping holes in my rawhide III on my Conquest. When the temps are -10 or better frozen sticks seem to be like bayonets to my tires, especially the side walls, the tires are less than a year old, but when it comes time to replace them, I may look for something a little tougher, in the meantime, I was thinking of sliming them in hopes it would save me some trouble.

Dave Beeman
Eielson AFB, Alaska
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Jeff Kemp

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Dave,

I am shocked that you keep popping the Rawhide III tires how much air are you running in them? Anyhow I use the slime myself and it does work good. I had a old Attex that had a dime size hole in the sidewall of one of those one piece firestone tires. Those tires were thirty years old and the slime worked great. I use the slime in my Runamuck tires on my Vanguard and it works great. I have never had a problem with popping the Rawhide III tires they seem pretty tough I run about 3psi. Good luck

Kemp
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Dave Beeman (Dave_beeman)

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I think it is because of the cold, didn't have a problem with them at all after I put them on last summer, they were a big improvement over the runamuks. Will have to invest in some slime. I am running my tire pressures at 4.5psi, any less and I have problems with spinning on the rims, which then causes water to be able to get in there, then when it freezes, I find out I have water because I have a big out of balance tire that vibrates like an eartquake. Need to get some new rims one of these days, might be able to run lower tire pressures. Thanks so much for the information.

Dave Beeman
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Jeff Kemp

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Dave,

Yes you do need the rims with the safety bead. You can run the tire at o psi and they should not spin on the rim.

Kemp
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matt435

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Jeff, were can I get these rims you are talking about? I have lost the bead on both my Max and Argo before. It would be nice not to worry about loosing the bead. Matt

P.S. can't wait to ride with you again this april. Will your friend be there that was at humphry? Matt
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Tim O'Keefe

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All of my tires on my bigfoot have massive holes in the side walls. I patch them from the inside with rubber roofing material and put a tube in it. The tires cost too much to replace everytime I get a big gash. If you still have your old tires with the holes, let me know, I will buy them from you.
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Dave Beeman (Dave_beeman)

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Thanks guys, I have had good luck plugging the hole except this last time. I will try and repair this tire from the inside, but it is a fairly large hole. What kind of tire machine do you guys use to remove and replace your tires from the rim, I have heard I can't use a standard machine. Thanks again.
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John Martin

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Dave, I use a highlift jack to break the bead. I place the tire and rim on a piece of wood(if I'm working on the ground) or concrete surface. Pull the needle valve from the stem. Find an object that is heavy, I use a pickup bumper. I stack up piecies of wood until they are within an inch or two of the bumper(this holds the tire down on the opposite side of the jack) Place the base of the jack next to the rim opposite the wood and start jacking up on the pickup or other heavy object. Do this as many times as needed to break each side of the tire down. Then use two tire irons to work the tire off the rim, be sure to pull the tire off the rim from the small shoulder side of the rim. This is the part of the rim that is lower than the other side, made this way to make it easier to remove the tire. This has worked real well for me when patching holes on the inside and not having to pay someone else to mount and dismount my tires. You can get faster and better with practice. It is easier shown than told. Make sure when you remount your tires they are going in the right direction! Good Luck
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Jeff Kemp

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Matt,

I bought the rims at my local Argo dealer. I have never lost a bead. I found that most of the rims on the market don't have the safety bead. The rims were $30 a piece...kinda pricy.


Kemp
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Roger Smith

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Tim, what glue are you using with the roofing rubber, the roof glue or tire patch glue, etc.

Are you guys using regular radial tire patches sucessfully? A tire shop plugged the only puncture I've had, and said I wouldn't have success with internal patches on the runamucs..

Was browsing the argo manual and it said patch 'em, without details. Most of my problems are slow bead leaks, from dirt I assume. Managed to break down a bead today by carefully driving my Pathfinder's front wheel over the sidewall. Hasn't worked in the past, but this time I used a lubricant to soak the bead.
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Roger Smith

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Also how little Slime can you use per runamuc. The bottle says the whole 16 oz for an atv tire. Yeah right..
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swamprat8x8

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To everybody who has tire problems. I bought a tire changer from Harbor Freight that works great, it was only about $25. But when I take a tire off and put it back on I use the regular tire bead sealer that you can get at almost any auto parts store. It is about $20 a can. If you can't find it go to any big truck tire shop and they will have it. It seems to hold the beads good. No tire slip for quite a while. When they do start to slip I break it down and put more on. When I remount the tires I put slime in them. This seems to work pretty good I haven't lost a bead yet and I ride pretty hard.
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Roger Smith

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Is this the one you're talking about?

Anyone else have a model they like?

Mini Tire Changer

if that link didn't come out right, copy and paste this one

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=34552
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swamprat8x8

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Roger Smith yes that is the tire changer I have. Sometimes breaking down the bead is difficult. I use automatic transmission fluid on the bead as I am breaking it down. Just be sure to clean it off good before you put the tire bead sealer on it.
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Dave Beeman (Dave_beeman)

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Thanks a bunch guys, I do appreciate it.
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mr. tinker

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i bought the full size tire changer from harbor freight. i put anchors in the concrete driveway that can be unbolted when its not in use.the changer was on sale for 35$.the changer made quick work of the 26" tires on my maxIV. i really like using it than doing it with just tire levers. thinking about buying the motorcyle tire changer that works with the full size one.
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I have had bike shops ruin the bead with a pneumatic tire changer, causing tire slip on the rims. The Harbor freight mini tire changer does not do such damage. The secret to getting the final bead over the rims is to push down on the side already on the rim until it is against the rim center, which is the narrowest part of the rim. Then the rest of the bead will slip easily over the rim with no damage. But do not be like me and forget to replace the valve and wonder why you are losing air. And use bead rim lube. I also unseat the beads easily with the tool that comes with the changer, but you must work it evenly around the bead until it releases.
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Philip Croff
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My original Firestones on my Amphicat were leaking around the valve stem. Can't replace them so I used the smaller can of Fix a Flat and they've been holding fine for a few months.
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Pete Dunham
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Dave
If you want to try a tire machine, bring one in to the Auto Hobby Shop on Eielson and ask for Pete. I work days in the Wood Shop and Auto Shop

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