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Tim
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Username: Hammr
Post Number: 45
Registered: 12-2008
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, July 23, 2009 - 09:43 am: | 
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Hey folks, site is relatively quiet these days, everyone must be out riding. I have searched the site but didn't find anything relating to fan replacment/repair for an Argo. When I turn the key, the fan comes on with this squeal and growl so I assume the bearings or fan itself is on it's last legs. Can anyone shed some light on this as I have not dug deep enough into the engine compartment to understand more about the assembly. Thanks in advance!!!
Tim |
L.A. Philip Osborn
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Username: Roadwolf
Post Number: 220
Registered: 02-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, July 23, 2009 - 01:21 pm: |
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Tim
Sorry I can not help on the fan, but I do know the new board will be launched soon, I am looking forward to it.
Phillip Osborn LA |
Tim
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Username: Hammr
Post Number: 46
Registered: 12-2008
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, July 23, 2009 - 04:00 pm: |
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New board? |
Erich Kelter
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Username: Fisherman
Post Number: 120
Registered: 11-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, July 24, 2009 - 12:42 pm: |
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The best I can say is that you are probably correct, the motor bearings are probably dry or pooched. I'm pretty sure it's the same as mine, it will be a similar set up like a furnace motor with a "squirrel cage" blower attached, direct drive. Mine is held under the upper body with a couple of small nuts and bolts, I've seen some that are rivited instead. With a couple of bent fingers and warped wrenches, take the blower unit out, if your somewhat mechanically inclined, you should be able to take the motor apart, check the bearings and lube them with some 20/20 very light oil, or maybe have to replace the motor.
One extra point, some of the members observed that those blower motors suck a lot of power and the older ARGOs didn't have the best of alternators to charge the battery. I put an in line 12V/20amp illuminated switch in line with the motor. When not moving or shortly after stopping, I turn the blower off, you wouuldn't believe how much the voltmeter comes up. |
Timothy Schotanus
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Username: Mudbuster
Post Number: 20
Registered: 01-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, July 24, 2009 - 05:36 pm: |
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It has been quiet lately. I will always be on route6x6, Richard Clark has done so much for this sport. Everyone should try some of his cool replacement parts(recreatives should use his easy shift kit) This is the best site out there. |
Tim
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Username: Hammr
Post Number: 47
Registered: 12-2008
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, July 28, 2009 - 09:10 am: |
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Erich, thanks for the tip on adding a switch to the blower motor, never thought of that. I am fairly mechanically inclined however power is another story, if I can't see it....
Are you saying that the blower is totally manual after you made the modification? There may be an alternative to the stock power sucking fan and I will do some digging.
Thanks all! |
Erich Kelter
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Username: Fisherman
Post Number: 121
Registered: 11-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, July 28, 2009 - 10:15 am: |
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Yes, totally manual, the switch I used has a small led light in the end of it, when the switch/power and fan are on, the light stays lit while the motor is running, when I turn the switch is "off", the light goes out and the fan is off while the motor is still running and charging. If the wiring is the same colour coding as yours, the ground from the fan motor is brown and the power wire is yellow connected at the fused buss bar at the firewall. If you need more info on the wiring, I can add more. I suppose you could add an aftermarket alternator, I don't know if they will fit the older motors. |
Tim
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Username: Hammr
Post Number: 48
Registered: 12-2008
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, July 28, 2009 - 04:27 pm: |
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I suppose you must get used to using it manually. It would be helpful on mine because the old girl will seldom idle long before it sputters out and the fan will continue to run. I am still waiting to put up a new garage/shop so when I get to it I may ask for info again. I had to put on a new voltage regulator on mine because it wasn't charging and of course the fan wasn't long sucking the battery dry without a charge. It's a different form factor and I had to bend the contacts a bit to get the breather to go back on. The good thing about this one is that it has an overload protection and it can be reset. |
Erich Kelter
Advanced Member
Username: Fisherman
Post Number: 122
Registered: 11-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, July 28, 2009 - 09:30 pm: |
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The old girl won't idle long, ha, get a can of Sea Foam, pour a healthy dose into the tank and if you can, take off the fuel line at the fuel pump and pour as much as you can into the line before the carb and then give it a good run. Mine was a real witch, could never get it to idle properly, Sea Foam cured that in one tank. |
Dave Keeso
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Username: Argomag
Post Number: 112
Registered: 01-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, July 28, 2009 - 11:30 pm: |
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Hey Tim, I havn't been around much latey so i missed this post when it went up. If we are talking about an older ARGO circa MAGNUM those fans need to be lubed once and a while. Just before you start the engine, spray a shot of Jig-a-Loo into the screen covering the fan. Mine was doing the same thing squeeling and one shot of that fixed it right up. |
Tim
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Username: Hammr
Post Number: 49
Registered: 12-2008
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, August 04, 2009 - 11:01 am: |
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Erich, haven't heard of Sea Foam before but will look into it. Don't want to mess with the idle adjustment knowing how finicky they are to shift.
Dave, Mine is 92, or 93 Magnum. Do you mean the screen on the hood of the engine compartment? It seems as though the fan motor is way under and not easy to get to baut haven't done a lot of investigation.
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Tim
Member
Username: Hammr
Post Number: 50
Registered: 12-2008
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 10:47 am: |
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Dave, did the Jig a Loo method and it sounds much better now. I also found that the duct was not attached to the lower elbow so I put that back on as well. I didn't realize that the fan was only for the braking and transmission, though it was engine cooling as well so I learned something. |
robert longfellow
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Username: Maxinout
Post Number: 46
Registered: 09-2007
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 05:07 pm: |
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Sounds like a good idea
Robert |
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