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Brett Bonner
New member
Username: Brettbonner
Post Number: 4
Registered: 02-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, February 03, 2009 - 08:13 pm: | 
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Hi - I started to make some bearing extensions to solve the Max bearing issues, but changed jobs and moved in the middle of the job. Unfortunately, my max has been out of service for about 3 years. But this weekend, I had some extra help and time and finally resumed work on the extensions. We completed one axle/bearing swap. We couldn't wait and took the Max for a test drive in the snow. I enjoyed the Max for the first time in too long a time. It was great!!!!
I was always upset about the Max engineering oversights. The inappropriate use of sealed bearings in place of real seals is one such oversight. IMHO, putting the Max in water one time is enough to ruin the bearings. My thought was to make some extensions similar to an Argo, fill them up with marine grease, and thereby prevent water from reaching the "sealed" bearings.
Anyway, I made the bearing extensions out of some really thick PVC from Home Depot. All parts were made on my Harbor Freight 3in1 system. The extensions have bearing seals, zerk grease fittings, and bolt on to the bearing flanges. I cut and turned 3/8" pipe as sleaves for the bearing flange bolts.
On the one axle I completed all these mods, the extensions worked GREAT. I believe this will solve my Max bearing problems.
Just thought you would like to know. If there is interest, I'll post pictures. |
philip w.cox
Senior Member
Username: Philipatmaxfour
Post Number: 584
Registered: 01-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, February 03, 2009 - 11:27 pm: |
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Hi Brett, We are always interested in new ideas.I would appreciate some pictures if you could. Thanks |
david berger
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Username: Davidrrrd
Post Number: 531
Registered: 01-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 04, 2009 - 10:48 am: |
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hay all, havent bin here in a while, used to watch my e-mail for the automatic forwerded posts and i dont get any any more.
anyway here i am to bring this news.
tim okeefe did it again!
he was on the news for crashing threw the ice again in his argo.
he asked me to pst a link to the channel 6 news story.
i dont know if it will work.
i watched it myself, i helped him last time,funny he dident call me this time.
http://www.abc6.com/news/38829702.html |
L.A. Philip Osborn
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Username: Roadwolf
Post Number: 167
Registered: 02-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 04, 2009 - 01:31 pm: |
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David
Some story about Tim, hope he indeed still trust
his argo to give him the freedom to get around, i also hope he is felling OK.
We have missed you here. I have talked with Route66 about the board he is aware the email feature no longer works, along with other things too. he said a new board is coming soon.
Happy to have you back
Phillip Osborn LA |
philip w.cox
Senior Member
Username: Philipatmaxfour
Post Number: 585
Registered: 01-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 04, 2009 - 06:03 pm: |
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Welcome back David. On another site they are talking about straightening bent axles. They don't know your way with the chain and jack but it made me think of you David. Tim O'keefe looks good on tv. Hope to ride with you again, soon.  |
L.A. Philip Osborn
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Username: Roadwolf
Post Number: 168
Registered: 02-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, February 05, 2009 - 12:09 pm: |
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Brett
Is the PVC strong enough to really help?, Wouldn't a small fee at a machine shop deliver the part made out of steel? I am not trying to bash, just think your idea is great, Please post some photos.
Phillip Osborn LA |
david berger
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Username: Davidrrrd
Post Number: 532
Registered: 01-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, February 05, 2009 - 05:39 pm: |
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maybe take the prototype to a fowndry and see if they can give you a quote on casting in metal.
hay philip osborn you old rascle you.
are you working?
and philip cox could you post a link to the 6x6 posts about the axel straitining technique,
or maybee e-mail a link to the postings on 6x6 world so i can find it and enlighten them myself. |
philip w.cox
Senior Member
Username: Philipatmaxfour
Post Number: 586
Registered: 01-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, February 06, 2009 - 08:25 pm: |
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hi David, I can't do a link but the thread is titled "How bent is bent'" I hope you can explain your Technique better than I did. See you my friend. |
david berger
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Username: Davidrrrd
Post Number: 533
Registered: 01-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, February 08, 2009 - 07:49 am: |
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mr osborn e-mail me please,
davidrrrd@yahoo.com |
david berger
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Username: Davidrrrd
Post Number: 534
Registered: 01-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, February 08, 2009 - 08:35 am: |
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philip cox i cant find the "how bent is bent "thred on 6x6world,
what site is it on?
thanks, david |
Rogersmith
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Username: Rogersmith
Post Number: 390
Registered: 01-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, February 08, 2009 - 09:26 am: |
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It's in the Hustler forums.. or search for "bent" |
Bryan Jaedike
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Username: Tigerguy
Post Number: 35
Registered: 02-2007
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, February 08, 2009 - 10:48 am: |
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That a real problem with that board, items, next to imposable to find. I am thinking about starting a board myself |
david berger
Senior Member
Username: Davidrrrd
Post Number: 535
Registered: 01-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, February 09, 2009 - 02:46 am: |
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here is what i posted there:
hi all! http://www.6x6world.com/forums/images/smilies/confused.gif
im not sure how this site works,
i dident sucsessfuly make the move here when others did in part because route6x6 used to auto e-mail posts to you, i only had to click a link to reply to any thred from the comfort of my own e-mail acount.
this serching for stuff is diferent http://www.6x6world.com/forums/images/smilies/hmmmm2.gif
i have sean worse axels,
mostly on my machines.
the best method is to remove the axel for straitining on a 20 ton or higher hydralic press. (works on solid axels much better than tube axels)
it's a good idea to have a spair axel or two for temporary replacement so your ride is alwase ready to roll!
on the day you straiten them simply roll them across a good flat table with the hub off the table edge and note the high spots on the hub.
set them up in the press with suports as far apart as posable and find the center of the high spot and pump away, it takes practice but eventualy you get the nack of it.
i found it worked for me one or two pumps after it realy starts resisting.
or by sight you push a little ferther than strait and release after a 5 count!
sucks when you find you actualy bent it an equel amt. the other way! LOL
any way you roll them again and if they only wobble at the hub 3/16 or so id quit there. (provided the part on the table never showes air space onder it when your rolling)
most bend at the bearing coller so thats nearly alwase where your pressing them from. |
david berger
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Username: Davidrrrd
Post Number: 536
Registered: 01-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, February 09, 2009 - 03:07 am: |
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now if you dont have time to pull them out there is a simple quick method to get them back within 1/8 to 3/16 of center wich is good enoph to ride on.
once someone i thought of as a compleat idiot did this and although it worked great i dident ever plane to do it myself.
that is till i was at a ride at pete cagles.
seams there wasent time to throw in a spair, the group was prepairing for another run, so i was compelled to try,
but when all was done there came voices of astonishment from over my sholder to let me know i had not gone unoticed, next thing i had a small number of people crowded arrond for a lesson,i asked all present to never tell anyone they got it from me,LOL
but within a few short days it found it's was on petes site as a "how too"
as "the berger method" aarrgh!!
he had photos and step by step instructions that were prity clear and so it spred like wild fire,
for a time i was famous. LOL
In time i ecepted this beacause knowone ever claimed any dammege to there machine from doing it.
there were several acounts of the method on vairious threds on route 6x6.
Still i was more comfortable being known for quick trail side bearing and or axel chainges or my screws threw the tire rim mod's.
but if you want to try it you need a good strong automotive floor jack and a good strong chain with a locking hook on one end and a good strong long plate of steal to place the jack on and the chain under.
you place the chain under the steal plate (or wood 4x4 as sugested by pete) near yhe base of the bearing coller and the cup of the floor jack just under the axel hub.
rotate by hand and mark in each direction the spot that hits the jack,
mark the spot between your marcks and before you go ferther use atire iron or something agenced the floor and held up near the center of the hub as it is spun to see how much out of spec it is.
(you will get a circle insted of a single center point)
1/8 to 3/16 is hardly big enoph to bother with, but you will compair this each attempt to check your results.
next set your chain up arround the plate and the axel near the bearing and lock it to itself.
next set the axel at the pointyou marked at the bottom and raise your jack cup up to it, now pump away!
when your eyes begin to bulge it will only take another pump or two before you can see with you own eyes that the axel is indead bent the other way!
you give it say a 8 to 10 count and release it.
now rotate again to compair your out of round point on hub center again.
repeat as nessesary from the marking the hub point on.
when your 1/8 to 3/16 out your close enoph!
practice makes perfict, if only a little use less seconds befor release, a long way to go?
alow more time for the bending befor releaseing it. good luck and remember to use this method only when you cant remove and replace axel or cant straiten in a press. |
Rogersmith
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Username: Rogersmith
Post Number: 391
Registered: 01-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, February 09, 2009 - 08:28 am: |
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I have no problem navigating that site. There's a lot going on, but the New Posts, and Search Tabs are there to use. You may find it easier to stay on the front page, right click and open in a new window, anything you want to look at. |
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