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Ken Strahl
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Registered: 02-2005
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Posted on Sunday, October 08, 2006 - 11:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hi Folks. I posted this question in the Spring with no replies. I'll try again. I have a Conquest 8x8. It came with standard tracks and also wheel extenders. I'll be putting the tracks back on in a couple of weeks. I have read that the wheel extenders are not needed with the standard tracks. My question: Is there some advantage (other than the added stability of a wider footprint) in using the wheel extenders like better traction or am I wasting my time putting them on?? Thanks.
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Skip Saul
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Registered: 10-2006
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Posted on Monday, October 09, 2006 - 01:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

If you dont need them why use them I think in the winter wheel with is not so importand it is just an added joint that could give you trouble it is also a spot that could come loose so if you dont need them then dont use them loose lug nuts is not fun to tighten in the winter when it is -15 wind chell remember the old saying (if it ainte broke dont fix it that's my two cents worth for what its worth
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Jerry R. Nuss, Max Dealer in Illinois
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Posted on Monday, October 09, 2006 - 01:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

If the tracks fit and don't hit or slap the body then don't use them. Actually by extending the effective length of the axle there is increased leverage at the wheel and it could make the axle easier to bend.
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Tom Phillips
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Posted on Monday, October 09, 2006 - 05:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hey Ken: Where do you run your ARGO with the tracks in the winter? I'm trying to find some places in Colorado to take mine.
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Ken Strahl
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Posted on Monday, October 09, 2006 - 09:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I'm up in Manitoba. I run mainly on Lake Winnipeg for ice fishing and my woodlot in Victoria Beach. Guess that's a little far from Colorado, though. Thanks Saul & Jerry. That was my general line of thought, but being a newbe, I thought I might be missing something.
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Tom Phillips
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Posted on Wednesday, October 11, 2006 - 11:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Does anybody run in the mountains in Colorado or know of places to go with the tracked ARGO in the wintertime?
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Erich Kelter
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Posted on Wednesday, October 11, 2006 - 07:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Wheel extenders are generally only used for running with the wide supertracks to give the extra required inboard clearance.
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Brian in FABULOUS Utah
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Registered: 11-2005

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Posted on Wednesday, June 11, 2008 - 09:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

This evening I had a little extra time and thought I'd take the Supertracks off of my Conquest. I haven't had them off in about three years. I can get the allen screws out but can't get the pins out. I've tried moving them with a punch and all but one won't even budge. The one that did move got half way then hung up something and as much as I tried I couldn't get it pulled out. I have C clamp pliers on the tracks keeping them together, tried penetrating oil. What am I doing wrong?
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Brian in Fabulous Utah
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Len Cater
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Posted on Thursday, June 12, 2008 - 04:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Are you trying to remove them where the pins's go through a metal bracket? If so, then chose another pin that only links the plastic tracks as the metal rod would not be seized to the plastic.
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Brian in FABULOUS Utah
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Posted on Friday, June 13, 2008 - 10:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I have tried multiple pins with the same result which makes me think I'm dong something wrong but for the life of me I can't see what it is. I unscrew the set screw and begin tapping out the pin. I've tried multiple pins on each side with the same result; they won't budge. The one that would move I could pull half way with vise grips and then it got hung up on someting so I couldn't remove the pin.
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Rogersmith
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Posted on Friday, June 13, 2008 - 10:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Those pins get corroded and crusty, grow bigger and get stuck in the plastic. Don't understand why they don't use a better pin. You could pull the wheels if you want the tracks off, and then work on the tracks on the floor. Maybe simpler to leave them alone and put them back on the same way(letting the air out of the tires). Otherwise you'll end up replacing the pins. I'd try some serious penetrating oil and let it soak for days if you want it apart.
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Brian in FABULOUS Utah
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Posted on Monday, June 16, 2008 - 11:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Roger, that's a good idea. I think that is exactly what I'll do. But it's going to have to wait a couple weeks now. Life gets in the way of doing what's really important like taking those tracks off.
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Dave Keeso
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Posted on Monday, June 23, 2008 - 10:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Brian- Depending on the age of the tracks and wear of them they get grooves in them from where the plastic of the tracks join together like teeth. As the tracks turn they slowly wear grooves into the pin and especially the collar where the allen key goes into gets a deep groove in it. Another problem is that as the tracks wear the plastic tends to deform a little and gets chewed up. Use another track pin and start from the back wheel so that the track segment is as far out from the ARGO body as possible. Drive the other track pin into the hole (from the inside of the track) and hammer the old one out. Also make sure the set screw is all the way out so that it isn't catching on anything. don't loose it!
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Brian in FABULOUS Utah
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Posted on Wednesday, June 25, 2008 - 09:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Well I ended up taking off all the wheels to get the tracks off. It wasn't bad and gave me the oppourtunity to greese the zerks. One new problem I had: On one wheel the wheel extensions kept turning inside the extenstion hub. I then found out that three of the lug screws are not attached to the --I don't know what it's called but I call it the wheel mounting plate. This made it a bit harder to get the wheel off. I was thinking about using something like JB Weld to remedy this. What have others done?

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