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MATT WALLIN
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Username: Lawdog
Post Number: 1
Registered: 05-2006
Posted From: 207.68.116.138
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, May 21, 2006 - 08:13 pm: | 
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I HAVE AN 84 MAXIV. THE PREVIOUS OWNER LUBED THE SNOT OUT OF THE WHOLE MACHINE. THE BAND PADS ARE GREASED AND THE DRUMS AS WELL. THE BRAKE IS USELESS. CAN IT BE TAKEN APART AND CLEANED TO WORKING ORDER? HAS ANYONE FOUND A WAY TO PREVENT THE CHAIN LUBE FROM GETTING ON THE DRUMS? |
Fred Sowerwine, Montana's Max dealer
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Username: Fred4dot
Post Number: 167
Registered: 01-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, May 21, 2006 - 10:04 pm: |
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Yes Matt, take the bands off and use brake cleaning fluid. The only way to prevent that from happening again is to use less lubricant and to clean up the excess before it gets built up. |
MATT WALLIN
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, May 21, 2006 - 10:34 pm: |
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THANKS FRED, I HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT THIS FORUM FOR A LITTLE WHILE BEFORE I JOINED. I AM SHOCKED AT ALL THE ADVISE YOU GIVE. IT IS SEEING PEOPLE LIKE YOU THAT MAKE ME GLAD I GOT INTO THE 6X6 COMMUNITY. I'LL TRY YOUR TIP AND HOPE IT WILL HELP ME STOP WHEN NEEDED. |
Fred Sowerwine, Montana's Max dealer
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Username: Fred4dot
Post Number: 168
Registered: 01-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, May 22, 2006 - 12:14 am: |
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Always glad to help, Matt, if I'm able. The drum/band brake was never a real good brake (it is a holding brake), but it will hold you enough to body rock the machine while trying to get it in gear and maybe hold you enough to change gears on a slope. The braking while in operation is done with the internal tranny brakes (operated by the steering laterals) and with just a little practice, you will be able to turn and go down hill like a pro. Smooth steady hands is the secret to controlled braking - don't be hesitant to have the bands partially engaged when you want just a little brake (rest your arms on your knees if necessary).
Welcome to the world of skid steers! |
MATT WALLIN
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Username: Lawdog
Post Number: 5
Registered: 05-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, May 22, 2006 - 03:55 am: |
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FRED, I'M SLOWLY GETTING USED TO THE STEERING AND TRANS BRAKES. WHEN I PULL BACK ON THE RIGHT STICK TO BRAKE FOR A RIGHT TURN THERE IS A GRINDING/POPPING SOUND. IT IS ONLY OCCURING AT LOW SPEED JUST BEFORE THAT SIDE IS COMPLETELY STOPPED. GOING DOWN THE ROAD AND MAKING TURNS THERE IS NO NOISE. ALL CHAINS ARE NEW AND IN ALLIGNMENT. IS THIS COMMON IN THE T20'S? |
Fred Sowerwine, Montana's Max dealer
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Username: Fred4dot
Post Number: 170
Registered: 01-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, May 22, 2006 - 11:02 am: |
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Matt, You might try typing in lower case as upper case is considered shouting.
I'm a little concerned about your popping sounds - that might indicate bad sprocket teeth. Whenever the tranny bands are not fully engaged (or completely disengaged which is internal neutral), it is possible to have "tranny chatter". If it goes away when the bands are fully engaged either in drive or brake mode, it will do no harm (you should have the same sounds coming from both sides) . RI is now using a friction modifier (GM product) that reduces or eliminates this noise. |
MATT WALLIN
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Username: Lawdog
Post Number: 6
Registered: 05-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, May 24, 2006 - 09:53 am: |
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Thanks fred, I always type in caps unless doing offical documents. I will change my style for this forum.
I have had the other side do it before, just not very often.It does go away once fully engaged. I changed the trans fluid yesterday just for my own peace of mind. I've seen postings were people say to add limited slip fluid. Is this a good idea, or just a wild guess? How hard are bands to change if they give out? Thanks! |
Fred Sowerwine, Montana's Max dealer
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Username: Fred4dot
Post Number: 171
Registered: 01-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, May 24, 2006 - 10:50 am: |
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Matt, I'd say that if the noise bothers you that the friction modifier should be used. All the new machines come with it. I personally don't mind a machine talking to me and I still have a quantity of the old formula Dextron III that I am using without the modifier. When that is gone, I will switch to Type F and use the modifier. I change tranny oil every 100 hours - when in doubt, change it.
Working on a T20 is not hard, although time consuming. You should have a copy of the repair booklet (from Richard or RI) and not use "the bigger hammer method". |
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