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jason smith (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted From: 205.188.117.73
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, September 11, 2005 - 10:04 pm: | 
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Can anyone tell me why the tread pattern on aatvs is facing the oposite direction of what farm tractors do and if they have tried turning them around to see how they pull? |
philip w.cox
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Username: Philipatmaxfour
Post Number: 29
Registered: 01-2005
Posted From: 209.226.175.59
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, September 11, 2005 - 11:50 pm: |
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I think aatvers do this so that people on farm
tractors will have difficulty tracking them! |
Sean McConnell
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Username: Bookm
Post Number: 7
Registered: 09-2005
Posted From: 65.95.27.166
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, September 12, 2005 - 07:37 am: |
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Orrrr (LOL).... because the tread pattern needs to "scoop" the water (on bottom of tire) when "smimming". |
Fred Sowerwine, Montana's Max dealer
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Username: Fred4dot
Post Number: 82
Registered: 01-2005
Posted From: 216.166.168.53
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, September 12, 2005 - 01:02 pm: |
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Phillip, it also confuses law enforcement officers. I got in trouble in Texas on the South Padre Island Reserve about ten years ago. If I had been just a little quicker they never would have found me.
Jason, aside from propulsion in the water, If one enters bad stuff slowly, you can almost always back out (traction is best in reverse). This is true for machines with the engine in the rear for sure - not always true for machines with engines in the front. |
LARRY HOUGHTON (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted From: 69.90.48.68
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, September 12, 2005 - 08:47 pm: |
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Jason: The reason for this is for flotation and also when running over harder ground it doesn't wear the lugs off as fast. On farm equipment if you do alot of ruuning on the road you have to turn the tires around so the lugs don't peel off as fast but is no good for field work as there is no traction for any pulling power. |
SuperDave (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted From: 24.205.212.100
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 21, 2005 - 03:42 am: |
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I think it has to do with keeping on TOP of the ground. If you have the tires on so that the lugs dig dirt out from under the tire at the center and push it OUTWARDS towards the edges, you dig into the ground. If you put them on "backwards" the dirt is pulled from the outside of the tire and pushed towards the middle of the tire, which is less likely to dig a hole and trap you. In water, EITHER direction would give you the same forward thrust as you can not "dig a hole" in the water. As far as wear on the tire, the more air you put in the tire, regardless of direction of the tread, means less contact with the ground and less wear. If I was going to do a parade down main street, I would pump the tires up to the max to get the least tread wear. You are going to wear out tires regardless of what you do. I would worry more about damage to the RIMS. |
david berger
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Username: Davidrrrd
Post Number: 156
Registered: 01-2005
Posted From: 172.141.121.215
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 21, 2005 - 09:17 am: |
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superdave the as yet unregisterd guest ,
i have used my tires both ways and can as anyone else who has tryed it can that they do work one way far better in the water than the other way,
and in dirt the cuping way works agenced you by passing whatever your frount tire digs up to rear of it, same for middle tire and rear, so in an instant there will be several piles of loose dirt between your tires to make climbing out of your new holes that much more dificult.
we don't use em the way there designed but if we did they would spray the dirt out away from the vehicles tires and leave no piles between the tires,but we try not to agrivat this short comeing due to our need to travel across water and soupy mud, the cuped way is best! |
philip w.cox
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Username: Philipatmaxfour
Post Number: 31
Registered: 01-2005
Posted From: 209.226.175.59
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 21, 2005 - 01:12 pm: |
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Super dave: and JASON , my two unregistered friends .--I feel the need to set the record straight because I don't want to make it more difficult for newcomers to our sport. As MR. Berger says the tires are on backwards TO allow travel in soupy mud and water. If you turn them around you will be very slow in the water,you'll
get stuck in the mud and silt and you won.t go far in a swamp. Have fun. |
SuperDave (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted From: 24.205.212.100
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, September 26, 2005 - 02:43 am: |
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I drive mostly on rock and loose gravel. The rock is not an issue as it stays put. On the loose gravel, if the tires are on so they push the gravel to the outside of the tires, I dig holes and eventually rest on the body of the ARGO. If I put them on "backwards" they pull the gravel to the center of the tire and keep me on top. (It would not be an issue if the gravel would stay put like the rock does!) I have never found a problem with gravel piles between the tires as a result of how I put them on. It is interesting to note that on the www.argoatv.com website, THEY show the tires on the all the ARGOS in the "backwards" manner that I think is best. As far as propulsion in water, I use an outboard and shut the ARGO engine off. Works better than "tired drive." (Pun intended) |
Tom Phillips
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Username: Dozerdawg
Post Number: 22
Registered: 02-2005
Posted From: 24.225.27.163
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, September 26, 2005 - 08:06 am: |
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So how big of an outboard do you have on your ARGO, and what kind of speeds can you comfortably travel? you have a 6x6 or 8x8? |
SuperDave (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted From: 24.205.212.100
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, October 06, 2005 - 04:09 am: |
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I have an 8 wheeler....and 9.9 HP is the max recommended.. I got a 6 HP four stroke due to the silly California rules... I can go about 8 MPH on smooth water but have to watch out for speed boats blowing by. |
Philip Croff
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Username: F14crazy
Post Number: 38
Registered: 05-2005
Posted From: 24.56.201.68
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, October 06, 2005 - 05:25 pm: |
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How about my retro Firestones?
http://members.aol.com/f14crazy/honda11.jpg |
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