Topics Topics Help/Instructions Help Edit Profile Profile Member List Register  
Search Last 1 | 3 | 7 Days Search Search Tree View Tree View  
Route 6x6 Discussion Board * Shop Talk: Tech Tips and Q&A section * Should I patch(inside), plug,or just fill with fix-a-flat < Previous Next >

Author Message
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

mike tufano (Maximus)

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 10:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Just got my first nail! Not in the side wall thank GOD! super terra"s. My buddy says that "fix a flat screws up the inside of tires and then it leaks any way" Im ready to run to pep boys,but for what?
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

MaxRules (Brandon_price)

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 10:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Mike, use a plug for the tire. They work great and you don't have to take the tire off the rim. The biggest mistake you could ever make with that tire is to put fix a flat in it. I got a nail in one of my 22" tires about a year ago. Fix a flat sealed the leak and worked fine for a while. Before long it began leaking and the tire would spin the rim. This completely trashed the tire so it would no longer hold air. I replaced it with a new one ($52+shipping). I now have MAXimum traction. Five wheel drive just doesn't work when the going gets tough.

MaxRules
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

david berger (Davidrrrd)

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 10:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

i used fix a flat on the humphrey trail last april to fix a tube of all things, just couldent get the tire off the bead to chainge the tube, (i had a spair tube)the rims are atatched to my tires with 16 screws, -8 on each side, i now do them only on one side so i can get at my tubes, anyway it held up long enoph to enjoy the ride.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

markm

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 10:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Does anyone know if the tire machines most garages have can handle the 12x26 tires on the Max IV without destroying the rims?
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

markm

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 10:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

HELP- two of my 12x26s are leaking - looks like no outside damage to the tires, I just lost the bead seal on both. What do I do to fix that? If I can't get them to seal tight again, should I go with tubes? Any tips much appreciated.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Scott Philipps (Argosrus)

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 10:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

get some soap and put it around the bead of the tire....let all the air out the pump it up so its like 2 psi over and let it sit for 1 or 2 min bang the tire if u see boubles comming out around the rim...do that till it stops
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

markm

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 10:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Thanks Scott. I am not sure it stopped it completely, but it brought it down to just a trickle.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Bill Davis (Nvbigblue)

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 10:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Markm,

Two things:
#1 If you are worried about a garage damaging your wheels/tires, go to one that can handle aluminum/alloy wheels, they use a tire machine that doesn't use a spinning bar to mount or dismout tires from wheels. And they should be able to handle that tire. They can handle the tires from my suburban (12X35X16's) on Alcoa wheels.

And #2: I had when I bought my quads, they were always leaking at the bead. I ended up dismounting the tires, sand blasting the wheels down to bare metal and then putting 2 or 3 coats of paint (outside and inside) on them. Made the beads very smooth. I know it's a ton of work, but they haven't leaked since. I also use SLIME in them, which helps with the little pin prick holes from brush and such in the tread area. But I haven't had a bead leak since!

If nothing else, let all the air out of the tires (pull the valve core) and break the bead. Use a wire brush to clean the bead on the wheel, and a rag to clean the bead of the tire, and then you can coat the tire beads with (hehe....what else??... bead sealer). You can usually pick it up at a ATV dealer or some auto parts places. (It remindes me of rubber cement, which it probably is!). Coat the bead and then inflate the tire. Hopefully, that will stop your leaks. Good luck.
Regards,
Bill Davis
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Dave Johnston

Rating: 
Votes: 1 (Vote!)

Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 10:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Depending on where you are and how fast you need to fix the tire, there are several options. #1. Rotate the tire to an inside position and head for home, slowly so you do not dismount it from the rim. Fix it at home in the manner of your choice. #2. If you have the time, remove the tire and do an internal patch repair. That is considered the best way to fix a tire. #3. If you are short on time, do a plug repair. When you get home you can do a patch repair form the inside if you like. #4. Fix a flat is the fastest way to repair something small. If you need to get moving rather fast (Caught in a ravine during a rain storm?) However, it is a real mess if you use it and then decide to do an internal repair. (garages hate the stuff). #5. Remove the tire and wheel and head for home. No risk of dismounting the tire from the rim, but your axle is hanging out in the wind...Risky. and #6...my favorite for the poor four wheeler croud....Have a spare.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Tim O'Keefe

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 10:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I had to change and fix my tires so many times, that I bought a manual tire changer from Northern tools. It was 69$ but paid for itself in a week. You have to bolt it to the garage floor, but it works real well. I'm paralyzed but am able to change tires by myself now. After alot of trial and error with changer.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Bill Straub (Unregistered Guest)
Unregistered guest
Posted From: 66.181.139.90

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Wednesday, April 06, 2005 - 09:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I've got a leak in 2 of my Rawhide IIIs. The air will leak out over the course of the day. I will need to tatke the tires off and dunk them in the pool to see where the leaks are. Can these tires be removed by hand? If so, how best to do it?

I also just bought a pressure washer and was blasting the mud off the Max. I got a little ambitious on the tires and rims and removed some paint on a couple rims in the process. What's the best way to paint the rims - what paint? I'd like the color to match - the metallic grey color. Know where I can get some??
Thanks boys.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

JHOG (Unregistered Guest)
Unregistered guest
Posted From: 204.58.127.10

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Thursday, April 07, 2005 - 08:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Fix a Flat works for me. If it keeps leaking add some green slime.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Runningwstorms
Junior Member
Username: Runningwstorms

Post Number: 12
Registered: 03-2006
Posted From: 12.218.139.202

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Sunday, March 26, 2006 - 02:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Slime is the best stuff to use.
Any Autozone or Oriellies auto store carries the stuff. Recommended amount per tire is 16-32 ounces. If you get a poke in your tire up too 1/4" in diameter, the slime will fill it in fast.
Slime is what farmers use in all their tractor tires, and slime doesn't hurt the tires like Fix-A-Flat does.

Easiest way to put slime into a tire is 1st, take out the valve core, and allow all air out of the tire. 2nd, get slime in a 1 gallon pump dispensor, and put 32 ounces in each tire. 3rd, replace tire valve cores, and re-inflate to whatever PSI you normally run with. If you put slime immediately inside all your tires before you take your first run in your AATV, then you won't have to worry so much about driving it over brush/fallen trees/sharp rocks so much.
None of my tires have ever gotten a flat yet, and I drive my Bigfoot over some extremely rough terrain.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Jerry R. Nuss, Max Dealer in Illinois
Senior Member
Username: Jerrynuss

Post Number: 290
Registered: 02-2005
Posted From: 70.106.219.34

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Sunday, March 26, 2006 - 05:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Do you ever have a problem with the wheel spinning inside the tire or the bead getting broken because the slime acts as a lubricant? I personally don't like the stuff and at low pressures have not seen it do a very good job.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Runningwstorms
Junior Member
Username: Runningwstorms

Post Number: 13
Registered: 03-2006
Posted From: 12.218.139.202

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Monday, March 27, 2006 - 09:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Jerry,
I run my tires (Goodyear Rawhide III's) at 3-3.5 psi almost always, and before every trip, I check all tires and their pressure to make sure they all match.
No, I've never had any of my tires spin on the wheels, nor have I ever broke a bead, as of yet.

How low a pressure do you have in your tires, and what kind of tires do you run on your machine?
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Jerry R. Nuss, Max Dealer in Illinois
Senior Member
Username: Jerrynuss

Post Number: 291
Registered: 02-2005
Posted From: 70.106.219.34

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Tuesday, March 28, 2006 - 08:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I have the 26" goodyears on the K rims and I run them at 2psi. I've never had a problems with them.

On an Argo with the goodyear runamucks I was constantly having problems with the bead breaking so I ended up putting tubes in the tires. I ran the pressure at 3.5. After the tubes I never had a problem. Before the tube I was just about guaranteed to break a bead on a day of riding. I never had a puncture problem but I think the slime worked as a lubricant on the wheel and inside of the tire.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Runningwstorms
Junior Member
Username: Runningwstorms

Post Number: 15
Registered: 03-2006
Posted From: 12.218.139.202

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Tuesday, March 28, 2006 - 11:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Well, I have no knowledge of the runamucks, except to know that they didn't look to be very good tires for off-roading. They seem pretty thin to be driving over brush, or brambles, or even rocks for that matter. It just seems to me that the runamuck tires would be excellent for the beach or sand dunes, but nothing else.
So far tho, I've never had any problems with my Rawhide III's, and each of my 6 tires has 32 oz's of slime in them. They haven't spun yet.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Eddie Beddingfield (Unregistered Guest)
Unregistered guest
Posted From: 207.117.33.134

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Monday, March 27, 2006 - 08:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Also when checking air pressure with slime filled tires add a little air to clean out the valve stem before checking pressure ,or you may not get a reading ,or if you get a reading you will probably get slime in your gauge and then it wont work.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Rogersmith
Intermediate Member
Username: Rogersmith

Post Number: 97
Registered: 01-2005
Posted From: 70.234.133.136

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Tuesday, March 28, 2006 - 06:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

You'll get different stories about Slime. Troy Moore said he had a bead spin with slime, don't know what it was on. John Schwab runs it in everything he owns. His maxII w/ k rims has no problems. I think Jerry's runamuk problem was slime. I've never broke/spun a bead on a runamuk, even running flat.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Fred Sowerwine, Montana's Max dealer
Advanced Member
Username: Fred4dot

Post Number: 156
Registered: 01-2005
Posted From: 216.166.168.53

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Tuesday, March 28, 2006 - 07:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

FWIW, My opinion on slime and similar products is:
As long as your beads are well set, slime is OK. Slime will stop puncture leaks well but it will not solve a bead leak. It will actually make a bead leak worse by acting as a lubricant. Bead leaks need to be stopped by clean smooth rubber against clean smooth painted metal or by using bead sealer (glue).

I finally agree with Eddie about something - slime in an air gauge is a bad thing!
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

philip w.cox
Advanced Member
Username: Philipatmaxfour

Post Number: 138
Registered: 01-2005
Posted From: 64.228.3.24

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Tuesday, March 28, 2006 - 08:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Roger-The slime in John Schwab,s tires was not much help on the flat tire full of mud and water that he ran (apparently all weekend) in the Haspin Acres movie! The tire had three slashes in the sidewall. My tire guy won,t fix my tire if I have put leak sealer in it.W. Philip
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

philip w.cox
Advanced Member
Username: Philipatmaxfour

Post Number: 139
Registered: 01-2005
Posted From: 64.228.3.24

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Tuesday, March 28, 2006 - 08:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Roger-The slime in John Schwab,s tires was not much help on the flat tire full of mud and water that he ran (apparently all weekend) in the Haspin Acres movie! The tire had three slashes in the sidewall. My tire guy won,t fix my tire if I have put leak sealer in it.W. Philip
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Rogersmith
Intermediate Member
Username: Rogersmith

Post Number: 99
Registered: 01-2005
Posted From: 70.128.111.200

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Wednesday, March 29, 2006 - 07:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Philip, there was a tube in that tire. There was also a new tire and wheel in his truck, but I guess if it ain't flat, don't waste riding time changing it
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

david berger
Senior Member
Username: Davidrrrd

Post Number: 320
Registered: 01-2005
Posted From: 172.152.119.191

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Wednesday, March 29, 2006 - 10:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

anyone ever try slime in ther tire tubes??
rim slipage can be solved by adition of screws threw the rims into but not threw the tires, i started with 8 on each side of a rim and found i could do wheeles without rims moveing in the tires, however when the day comes to fix your tube you cant get the screws out and there like teeth you need to get hands and tube by, so then i tryed 8 on one side to alow repairs viea the other side, this also seams adequet to stop rim slipage,

Add Your Message Here
Post:
Bold text Italics Underline Create a hyperlink Insert a clipart image

Username: Posting Information:
This is a private posting area. Only registered users and moderators may post messages here.
Password:
Options: Enable HTML code in message
Action: