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kush
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 10:25 pm: | 
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Would tracks on the front 4 tires work ok? It won't be as good as around all 6 tires but it must be better than none at all. I have an Attex & I don't want to move the muffler. So I figure tracks around the front 4 tires would be better than nothing. Any ideas? |
david berger (Davidrrrd)
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Kush, shure give it a try, the toughest part of crosing logs for an example is just geting the center tires over, |
diggs
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i have the opportunity to purchase a 1983 8wheel argo for parts. the plastic body is in good shape but mechanically it looks very poor. there are nine rims with 7 tires looking better than 50%. also, the unit has a set of full tracks which are in good condition. the tracks do not say argo on the bottom of the link. i have a 89 magnum. will the tracks work on my argo? i am still using the smaller runamucks. i compared links to a half track set (poor condition)that i got with my machine. The non-owned tracks appear to have a smaller guides otherwise they look the same. Also...what might this old unit be worth?? |
David Keeso (Argomag)
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This came up in another thread last winter i think, i just couldn't find it- we at one point were on the topic of half tracks and their advantages/disadvantages etc. Has anyone ever put tracks over the 2 middle wheeles on an 8x8 ARGO? I thought about it this weekend and was trying to weigh the options. In one way, it would create the AVENGER lift- (two middle wheeles slightly lower than corner tires) but at the same time, a lot of drag on those middle tires. I think it may also have traction problems but it doesn't really have to be in snow- im thinking mud, but in areas where having the full tracks on is to awkward to manover through the tight trees. Has any one tried this- if so, how did it work? |
David Keeso (Argomag)
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If I had the tracks on the middle tires, leaving the front and back tires un-tracked, would i still be able to climb up stuff, or would the tracks slip too much? I am not really interested in using it on the middle tires during the winter because i know i'll end up stuck for sure in some of the drifts I get up at the cottage. I need the full tracks (standard) in winter, don't get used much but about once or twice during the winter i may try the half tracks on just the front 2 rows of tires and see how it goes. |
David Keeso (Argomag)
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If I had the tracks on the middle tires, leaving the front and back tires un-tracked, would i still be able to climb up stuff, or would the tracks slip too much? I know I probably wouldn't be able to go through really deep snow with just tracks on the middle tires but would it go through a couple feet of snow? |
lcater
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 10:25 pm: |
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I think the front would be better than the middle David as that is where the weight is. You want to keep the skidplate from compressing down into the snow as that is when forward momentum ends. So, the front is the better choice, but it sounds like just as much work as putting the full track on. |
David Keeso (Argomag)
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lcater- ya, I thought that same thing too, better just stick to the full tracks, but I still would like to try a half track some time, the other thing i just thought about was the space between the tires, is their enough for the track to pass through? |
keith barber (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted From: 204.116.119.114
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 21, 2005 - 10:19 pm: |
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i need points & condenser for chaparral484 cc or electronic ignition conv kit .. help no spark on one cylinder |
Richard Clark
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Username: Richard
Post Number: 4
Registered: 02-2005
Posted From: 12.223.108.12
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, March 22, 2005 - 06:48 am: |
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Keith:
I have most ATTEX and CHAPARREL parts in stock including points, but there is no "conversion" kit for the Chap engine, however you may be able to "convert" from another system. You are welcome to call me for details.
Thanks
Richard Clark
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Jesse Duke
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Username: Yukoner
Post Number: 5
Registered: 10-2005
Posted From: 207.189.238.76
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, December 03, 2006 - 10:12 am: |
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Has anyone ever just put tracks on and left them on? How do they handle? I am getting ready to put rubber tracks on an Avenger. |
Len Cater
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Username: Lcater
Post Number: 15
Registered: 02-2005
Posted From: 72.138.89.77
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, December 03, 2006 - 10:28 pm: |
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Jesse, we put our tracks on a few weeks ago and have run in non-snow conditions. The performance has been very good. Speed reduction is limited. We are as well considering leaving them on year round. However, make sure you but the mudflaps as the tracks throw a lot of stuff as they round the rear. |
larry wood
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Username: Lawpressman
Post Number: 3
Registered: 04-2005
Posted From: 64.12.116.199
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WHO'S TRACKS ARE THE BEST? WILL THEY LAST A LONG TIME? ARE THEY WORTH THE MONEY? |
Sam Robertson
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Username: Sam
Post Number: 100
Registered: 02-2005
Posted From: 74.129.201.133
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, January 30, 2007 - 06:55 pm: |
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Larry
As a rule the factory tracks are best , but very expensive, the after market such as Richard Clark's
or True Tracks are very nicely priced, but not as
good, I suggest you do a "search" on this board as there is tons of information already asked and posted
Sam Robertson |
Rob Sandera
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Username: Rob_sandera
Post Number: 12
Registered: 03-2005
Posted From: 4.91.134.20
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, February 04, 2007 - 01:59 pm: |
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Kush you could always try to fabricate up some sort of winter only muffler and run it up over the back. I would be a little leery of standard Attex axles holding up to tracks so maybe not run it hard. The pin through the center weakens the design quite a bit.. I would definitely make sure you have the cup washers on the axle and maybe tack weld them and make sure the pin fit is not worn. You may want something like a chrome moly rodbolt in there. As far as track differences depends on usage. For snow anything rubber will always grab better then anything with Nylon. Type of snow effects this a lot too (wet dry etc) Same as for tires. Hence you see the cost difference in runamucks and chevrons. You’re going to pay for rubber. Rubbers heavier etc If taken care of not left in the field to rot should last a lifetime. |
Ron Hutt
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Username: Ron
Post Number: 42
Registered: 12-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, December 07, 2007 - 02:03 pm: |
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Hi all
Hey I am putting the rubber tracks on my Avenger and my service manual is 100 miles away. I know that in the manual it states that all tires have to be measured with 5 psi in them off the ground. The tires according to size are then to be put back on in a certain order. I know the largest ones are to be put second from front but where are the rest suppose to go? Is there a real need to go to this much trouble. The manual did state that it would be easier on the chain tensioners. Also the tire pressures are different for each mounting position. Does anyone know what the tire psi should be for each.
Thanks Ron |
philip w.cox
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Username: Philipatmaxfour
Post Number: 403
Registered: 01-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, December 08, 2007 - 09:22 pm: |
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Hi Ron-My operators manual makes the track installation sound pretty technical indeed. Parts of pages 51 -56 including the extensions.Avenger tire pressures are--starting from the front( use smallest tire-- standard direction-)5 psi.
OK ,next,tire #2 use largest tire reversed direction-7 PSI.
3rd. tire-- use second largest tire,reversed direction, 7 PSI.
4 th. tire--use second smallest tire standard direction 6 PSI. I hope this helps, if needed I might be able to scan the pages into my computer and post them ,hmmm. Let us know. Also says if tires mounted in heated area ,check pressures after they are parked out in the cold for a while. W. Philip Cox |
1000 HOURS
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Username: Gearhead
Post Number: 92
Registered: 01-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, December 09, 2007 - 03:27 pm: |
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Try this shortcut;you may have to copy and paste in your address bar.
Page 57 is what your looking for.
http://www.argoatv.com/_uploads/recreational/documents/26_Argo_Operators_Manual_ 671-06_-08-2007.pdf_(831_K)__(2008_Models)v1.pdf |
Ron Hutt
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Username: Ron
Post Number: 43
Registered: 12-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, December 09, 2007 - 03:41 pm: |
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I appreciate all the help. I am going to install the tracks tomorrow. Hey Gearhead, I tried to look up the site you gave me but all the language was French I think? I can't communicate with my wife let alone speak another language???
Ron |
1000 HOURS
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Username: Gearhead
Post Number: 93
Registered: 01-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, December 09, 2007 - 03:49 pm: |
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Sorry does not seem to want to link directly.GO TO-
http://www.argoatv.com/recreational/rechome.aspx
Click top left "Vehicles"
Click lower top left "Avenger 700" or any model
Click on middle of page on "Downloads"
Click upper lower left on "Operators manual"
Click your operators manual in middle of page
Scroll down to Page 57 ; and I think that is what your looking for. |
Ron Hutt
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Username: Ron
Post Number: 44
Registered: 12-2006
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Hi
Thanks! I printed the needed pages.
Ron |
Ron Hutt
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Username: Ron
Post Number: 45
Registered: 12-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, December 10, 2007 - 07:43 pm: |
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Hi again
Okay, I have another question? I was reading the installation instructions for the tracks and found a small section that stated that when the tracks are not in use to remove the wheel extentions. Why? Is there a risk of damaging the chains, bearings, axles? I ran my last Argo with the extentions on for the entire time I owned the machine. I realize that there are mud, snow and debris problems that the extention configuration creates. But what other problems could be created by not taking them off?
Ron |
philip w.cox
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Username: Philipatmaxfour
Post Number: 404
Registered: 01-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, December 11, 2007 - 01:58 pm: |
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hi again Ron,If you ran your last Argo with the extensions on full time ,then you have already answered your own question! Did you find it harder to get between trees on the trails? You must have been using mud deflector skirts. Did you find that it threw mud everywhere anyway? The ext. do put more stress on the axles without doubt. Like having a longer axle. It depends on how and where you drive but it doesn't cost anything to remove them. |
Ron Hutt
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Username: Ron
Post Number: 46
Registered: 12-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, December 11, 2007 - 03:56 pm: |
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Hi Philip
Your points are well taken. Yes I do have mud guards on the back end. My wife didn't like the dirty blonde look. I put the extensions on as described in the manual but the last three inches or so I had to tap them on to the wheel. I wonder how hard they will be to get off? You would think that any moisture into that area may make it difficult. Thanks for the input philip.
Ron |
Len Cater
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Username: Lcater
Post Number: 53
Registered: 02-2005
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We ran the summer with the extensions on but I think next year we will remove them. The wider track made it more difficult on tigher tracks, but did make it easier to climb in. |
philip w.cox
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Username: Philipatmaxfour
Post Number: 407
Registered: 01-2005
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Ron, "Dirty blonde look"-ha ha that's funny- I was at right angles behind a Frontier in the mud last summer at the Ledges. Those argo tires gave me a dirty blonde look. |
Ron Hutt
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Username: Ron
Post Number: 47
Registered: 12-2006
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Philip
When I checked around Idaho to see how many Argos could possible be out there in our State I think mine and one other made two. We only get 9 to 11 inches of rain in Central and Southern Idaho. Our rides are in dusty conditions most of the time except when I go North and play in the snow. When I want to get wet I put into the waters I treat for aquatic vegetation. No group rides out here.
Ron |
Jack Ouellette
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Username: Beungood
Post Number: 52
Registered: 02-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, December 30, 2007 - 11:48 pm: |
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Anyone ever run the Escargotracks? They seem to be very well made and have good water performance. |
Bob Hicks
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Post Number: 1
Registered: 11-2014
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Hi,
I am new to this. I have a 97' Max IV. I am mlooking at getting a softer ride out of some new tires. I have Goodyears on it now-21". They ride like square bowling balls. Will the Vendetta's give me an appreciably softer ride? Will they do better in snow-Ashtabula-a foot is a little up there. 2-3' is usually what we have.
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