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Gord Young

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Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 10:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Has anyone done any research to determine what replacement drive belts are available to fit the ARGO?

I'd love to be able to try what other manufacturers have to offer but I am having little luck in cross referencing to another belt. the belt on my Vanguard 6x6 is ARGO P/N is 125-56. Thanks for the help.
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MaxRules (Brandon_price)

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You need to call ODG and they will tell you the dimensions of the belt. Once you have those you can choose from just about any brand of belt on the market. I bought mine from www.DennisKirk.com . Search their snowmobile catalog for the brand of belt you want. I am told that Dayco Ultimax 2 is the best. It costs $54. I got the Dayco Max belt for $36 from them. Dayco belts don't seem to slip near as much as other belts. I seem to have gotten a defective one, just last night I found that mine had a 3" section of teeth torn off of it. It has a one year warrenty so I will be getting a new belt for free.

MaxRules
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Mike

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Mr Young:

I do not write to this board a lot but, I will try again!

I think that you should get the original style belt for your machine. Some of the aftermarket belts are cut on the sides for different machines, like snowmobilles and trenchers! Some manufactures do use belts cut at different angles. Not to even think of rubber compounds.
There is more to think of the just measurements around.

When you start changing things around you can have failure, {see above message}. He bought a replacement and it failed, is it the belt or the wrong application?

The reason there is no direct cross referencing to another belt is the fact that there is NO DIRECT CROSSING, this means there is not other belt that is the EXACT same. I am sure others will say I am nuts, but think about what I have said and the above message, already with belt failure.

PS Thanks Richard for all your dedication to this website. I really enjoy it.

Mike
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Gord Young

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Thanks for your words of advice gentlemen, and thank you Richard for your email.

Given that I do not like to use sole source for a product which is otherwise readily available from other manufacturers, I will pursue a replacement belt.

I intend to seek correct measurements from ODG and try Gates or Dayco. From correct length, width and belt side angle measurements, I should have some luck.

Again, if there is anyone out there who has found success with using another manufacturers belt, let me know.

Cheers,

Gord
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bzc

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I have a mechanical engineer for variable speed drives working on this problem right now, I have bought so called cross referenced belts and your right there is not a exact replacement. This is what we know so far, the belt length and width, the angle pitch is what is hurting us right now it seems to be between what the gates people call a "A" and "B" pitch side wall. This is not a standard belt, but it is thought that this belt may be available from the heavy industry division of gates for variable speed drives. We have looked at the snow mobile belts and the some truck belts but there is not a good match yet. Bottom line is if the pitch doesn't match the pitch of the pulleys it will either rip the teeth off or eat away at the top half of the belt.
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Tim Wafer (Iflyrctoo)

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Ok, How can one determine the correct belt for a machine that is no longer in production and does not have an original belt? Both my Tracker and PPT are long out of production and no OEM belts are available. So far I'm just guessing as to a size. It works but belt life seems to be questionable. What is a more precise way or is there one?
Tim
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MoralDK

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I got an equation from an industrial belt supplier. I don't remember how it went. However, when I used it, I purchased a belt that was way too small. You might try this with a shop in your area and come out with better results. They wanted this information: distance between pulley centers, inside dia. of clutch, outside dia. of the torque converter, belt thickness.
Good Luck
MoralDK