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scott
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Username: Ibuysellamphibs
Post Number: 5
Registered: 07-2009
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, February 05, 2010 - 04:27 pm: | 
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hey guys, i really enjoy gettin out in the winter but these tracks dont seem to be reliable enuf to really venture out and they r almost impossible to put on in a well equipped garage let alone on a trail in sub weather!? i stripped 2 threaded rods using the tooll to put the trax on. i saw in another post what someone ccalled a 70s max setup. looked like all kinds of frame pieces and actual bogey wheel sort of system? is that a full time trax setup i dont know about? i would really enjoy running trax all year round. anyone run them yr round? i could use advice on making mine stay on better or perhaps an entirely different track setup if someone knows of something? disconnecting front set uf wheels or any set for that matter help keep the tracks in line better? higher tire pressure versus lower grip better? maybe add chains to the ends of the aluminum sidegaurds like ive seen on skid steers? any help would be great im gettin depressed hoofing tracks on my gettiong too old back! ......scot |
scott
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Username: Ibuysellamphibs
Post Number: 6
Registered: 07-2009
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, February 05, 2010 - 04:31 pm: |
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Kenneth Schroeder
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Username: Ken_glen2
Post Number: 28
Registered: 11-2007
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, February 05, 2010 - 09:53 pm: |
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Hi Scot.
I have after market tracks the guides 4 inche high they never came off 2years now.What i do is turn the tires around so vee does not climb the guides. gust a guess. ken. |
Timothy Schotanus
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Username: Mudbuster
Post Number: 26
Registered: 01-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, February 06, 2010 - 05:54 am: |
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What kind of tracks do you have? The old factory "conveyor belt" style would come off but the new 15 inch wide rubber track works good. I run about 3 psi in my tires with the tracks on. I have no experiance with plastic tracks but have heard they are much easier to put on. Do you have bearing cages with the spreader bar installed? |
Jeff bar
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Username: Argo8x8
Post Number: 183
Registered: 03-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, February 06, 2010 - 10:14 am: |
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I run the 12" plastic tracks, they are easy to install and remove, great grip. but they are clunky in the dry. But they are tracks!
Jeff Bar |
scott
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Username: Ibuysellamphibs
Post Number: 7
Registered: 07-2009
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, February 07, 2010 - 04:04 pm: |
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hey guys. mine were made by an older dealer back in the day. conveyor belting with a "v pattern. 12 inches wide. side guides come up a good 6 inshes. does that make a difference? i know the new factory ones only look to come up a couple inches or so? today was the 3 or 4th time popped one off. mostly when one side on the atv leaves the ground or side inclines. so im not sure if this is the machine for me yet or not as i want full time tracks that r reliable. its a 1991 max 2 with vangaurd 16hp by the way. i saw in an old string what someone identified as 70s max track system? looked to have extra steel guides and stuff and run on actual bogey wheel sytem like an actual tank? if i could find a set of those that would be fantastic? anyone have experience with that? i dont have any bearing cages or anything. not sure when that came out? i replaced an axle so i have ONE solid axle now! chime in with any experiences or tips for tracks as imnot confident hittin the trails yet., these babies took me 2 hrs to get it off the wheels this time. are ANY track systems easy to put back on on the trail if they fall off? i gotta deflate the tires and hook a huge impact wrench onit to tighten etc. how to various stypes work that way? thanx all!......scot |
scott
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Username: Ibuysellamphibs
Post Number: 8
Registered: 07-2009
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, February 07, 2010 - 04:14 pm: |
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does anyone know sam prestons email? he looks to have some experience with the track system im interested in? still a current member? also i forgot to comment on the tire rotation u mentioned. i was always told when not using tracks to have the open v facing forward opposite of say a far tractor which runs v forward? the dealer i vought the tracks from said i needed to run the track v open faced forward identical to the tires. is that NOT sorrect? u sayin i should turn the tires around? if so i can do that but then which way would i be wanbting the v facing on the tracks themselves? let me know before i try putting these back on again. its ALOT of work and would like to at least get them working as well as they r supposed to. looks like i have lots to learn yet |
scott
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Username: Ibuysellamphibs
Post Number: 9
Registered: 07-2009
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, February 07, 2010 - 04:36 pm: |
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heres some pics so everyone can see what im talking about!
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scott
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Username: Ibuysellamphibs
Post Number: 10
Registered: 07-2009
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, February 07, 2010 - 04:39 pm: |
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ok what about tire circumference? do u all measure the outside sizes of yer tires to make sure they r all the same or just go by psi air pressure? make a difference? i didnt really notice any difference and was wondering how important it was for longevity of the unit? one guy mentioned runs 3psi but mine r all over the place as i was making them the same size around. i think i had 5 psi in the rear on one side, 1 in the middle and 7 or so in t he front so that they were all the same size aorund. ok i will shut up for now and give u guys a chance to answer all my rantings! |
Kenneth Schroeder
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Username: Ken_glen2
Post Number: 29
Registered: 11-2007
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, February 07, 2010 - 11:29 pm: |
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Hi Scot.
Your guides are plenty high.My guides are 4 inches and the top is bent out i have 4lbs of air in al the tires and never loose a track.
here are some pics. ken. |
Kenneth Schroeder
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Username: Ken_glen2
Post Number: 30
Registered: 11-2007
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, February 07, 2010 - 11:32 pm: |
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Scott, here are the traks themselves. |
Timothy Schotanus
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Username: Mudbuster
Post Number: 28
Registered: 01-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 09:12 pm: |
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I have a max4 and have the factory 15" rubber track and have no problems. With hollow axles and no bearing cages I think you must have too much flex. It would be very expensive to put solid axles, bearing cages and spreader bars. Where are you from, if you are in new england we could get together and you could see my machine. |
scott
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Username: Ibuysellamphibs
Post Number: 11
Registered: 07-2009
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, February 11, 2010 - 04:26 pm: |
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hey tim....thanx for yer input on my thread. so u have hollow axles like me or were u saying u have solid axles and thought that was better? i had to replace a broken axles so i have ONE solid axle now i turned my tires around last night and about to go out and see how it performs. i tried a little last night and seemed ok i did a gazilliopn donuts in real deep snow and one started to come off but i straightened it out and drove it back on. WHEW! so i dont know about that. maybe higher air pressure in tires would help? it looked to be a ton of snow packed in there between the wheel and track that did it. mine r also only 12 inch trax. im gonna try and get stuck today, i think i might sell these and make some 18 inchers or something is what im thinkin now as i like bein out in the winter. u tried different width ones? maybe a newer max 2 if u think the sold axles and stuff make that big of a difference. i dont know what bearing cages r but i have a snow plow on it and that has a metal bracket that connects the two from bearings to each other so maybe thats the same? was thinkin of making another one and attaching that one to the middle one as well. might solid it up better too? was wonderin, u have a max 4, do u feel a scrunched up ion the front of that with no legroom etc? thinkin i would like to take passengers but it looks uncomfortable and less sturdy or tippy? well i will know more after i clear my snow today. im in wisconsin so we r not close. working on tryin to find locals with no luck. would like to find some fellow trax guys to just go ditch riding or something and try some other types but i think im leaning to the max because of all the options. but i also think i want to build a faster one too. stay tuned!......scot |
Timothy Schotanus
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Username: Mudbuster
Post Number: 29
Registered: 01-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, February 11, 2010 - 07:09 pm: |
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bearing cages are metal brackets that extend a bearing further out on the axle, closer to the wheel. Then the spreader bar is a long piece of metal that bolts to the bearing cages. 1 piece of metal to all 3 bearing cages on the same side so the axles have much more support further towards the end of the axle. It makes putting the tracks on more work but you will not have track problems after it is done. The bearing cages stay on but the spreader bar comes off with the tracks. Hope this helps. I might be able to post a picture of the bearing cages if needed. |
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