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By Mike Patty on Unrecorded Date: Edit

I have a 1972 {I Think} Allis Chalmers Terra tiger that a local farmer brought to me to get running. I cleaned the fuel system and gave it a bath, the unit looks good and runs. He has now asked to to see what it is worth to get rid of as he wants to upgrade to a newer model. He bought this one new back in 72. There are no cracks and it has brand new tires all the way around. What is this thing worth. on a scale of 1 - 10 with 10 being new I would give it a strong 7. THe engine is a 252 JLO and I have the original papers for the unit.

By Hotrod on Unrecorded Date: Edit

I just bought a 1973 Terra Tiger with the 18 horse Kohler 2 stroke engine,and a spare set of tires for $1500.00.The machine is like new,on a scale of 1-10,I'd give it a strong 9.Hope this helps.

By Max kills on Unrecorded Date: Edit

This is what I don't get. Eveyone says that Max and Argo are overpriced, yet they say that the price people pay for quads are reasonible. This is wrong, because quads are the machines that are overpriced. Think about it. Max and Argo are pretty much hand built machines made in small numbers. Now quads are mass produced like cars. It is a known fact that the more of something you produce, the lower the price you can offer, and the same goes for the lower number you produce, wihch is to say the higher the price you have to offer. When you think about it, quads should be priced lower than they are, like at $2,000 instead of 7 or 8. I am talking about the 4x4's, not the 2-wheel drives. And when you compare what quads offer next to what an Argo offers, the price you pay for a quad doesn't make sense.

By John Schwab (Johnschwab) on Unrecorded Date: Edit

MaxKills- You can drive yourself crazy trying to figure out why things cost what they do. For instance why does a Corvette cost more than a crew-cab 4x4 diesel pickup? Why does a Harley cost more than a comparable import bike? How can a decent motorcycle cost 10 grand, but you can buy a top-of-the-line 4x4ATV for seven grand and that ATV has alot more machinery to it than a motorcycle. I suggest that we stop trying to figure it out and just go riding.

By mike martindale (Wetsu) on Unrecorded Date: Edit

john you are so right.i know that when i bought my bigfoot i knew nothing about them,except that they cost a but load of cash.that didn't matter,since i just had to have 1.and i can promise you if i ever win that lottery i'll have 2,hell maybe more.i got mine to ride,hunt,fish whatever,if i need a workhorse,it's there.that is what really matters.if you want it,get it.you won't regret it.happy riding

By Max cool on Unrecorded Date: Edit

I had an idea that would help Max and Argo sells. Its not anything new, but if they were to build introductry models, like say, one and two seat Argos, or singel seat Maxs that were priced lower than the larger models, people could get into the fun of 6x6ing. Just becasue they would be smaller doesn't mean they would be junk. All Argo and max would have to do is use some of the features found on the big models, and use them on the smaller ones. I wouldn't mind owning a Max or Argo made for one person. It wouldn't be a nice as being able to carry lots of people, but it would still have the benifits of the full sized models, just in a smaller package. I belive this could help thier sells, and probaby reach people that otherwise could never afford one.

By Chris M. (Argomaster9000) on Unrecorded Date: Edit

Max cool,

That idea is already here. The 6x6 Argos are already smaller than the 8x8 versions. If they gotten any smaller, they would be 4x4 and would be classified as quads.

The 6x6 Vanguard is the cheapest Argo (price-wise, everyone knows there is no "cheap-quality" Argo.. HEHE!). And those are still more than the average quad. As far as introductory model, that would be the one. If they became any cheaper, ODG would have to sacrafice quality and I wouldn't want the Argo name suffering, especially not to "potential" buyers who drive the "intro model".

They already use the features of the larger models on the smaller models. The Vanguard/Vanguard2/Bigfoot is the scaled-down version of the 8x8 Response (roughly, I know some features differ). And the new 6x6 Conquest is nearly an exact replica (but smaller) of the 8x8 Conquest. What else can they do? The Argo web site already states these things, which is the reason ODG made the smaller models in the first place.

Now I don't know too much about Maxes, but those already come in a two-seater (Max II). So you can't "cut corners" and make introductory models for those either, because they already exist.

In addition, if you DID scale them down even more (Argos for example) to make them more affordable (or whatever your purpose would be), then you'd be losing the concept of Argos and you'd be building "junk" models. What could save money? Cheaper body, smaller engines, lower-quality constructions, etc. Do you understand what I am saying here? I'm repeating myself here when I say that it just wouldn't be an Argo anymore and people would lose interest fast when they look at these things.

It's not an Argo, unless it's an ARGO! :-)

I'm quite sure that everyone agrees with my points here. It's up to the buyer to realize that 6x6/8x8s are worth every penny, not up to the manufacturer to make them realize that. Sure they cost more then quads, but they're worth it!

By Max cool on Unrecorded Date: Edit

I know that idea is not new, but have you heard about the old terra tigers, those were pretty small. Besides, who said it had to be cheap to be small. The body wouldn't have to be any weaker than the bigger models, and a somewhat smaller engine in a lighter body would still be an awsome hill climber. Just because it is smaller doesn't mean it is cheap. you have got this whole "70's junk buggy' vibe going. I never said anything about Argo and Max having to quite building there current models. I said building introductroy models next to the current ones. Argo could build one and two seat models and Max could build one seat models. Things have changed, and in case you haven't noticed, bigger isn't alway better(machine quality).