Scrambler model 5000 4x4 aatv

Route 6x6 Discussion Board: Restoration of older ATV's: Scrambler model 5000 4x4 aatv
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Joe Nash on Unrecorded Date: Edit

Anyone have information relating to a Scrambler,
skid steer, 4x4 aatv, madel 5000. There is a picture of one at Route6x6 website under Information Bank, Scrambler, cover. The red 4x4 on this page is the only info I can find on it. The Scrambler manual covers the primary and final drive arrangement and appear to be identical. Thats all. The rest of the vhic is different.
The axels are huge 1 5/16" dia. solid steel. The wheel hubs are sleaved and match drilled for two 1/4" rollpins located at 90 degs. The sleave and
axel must be a pressed fit. I tried a 6" hydrolic puller, applied 15K psi untill the hub flange started to bend. It didn't move. Used a hammer in hopes of breaking it loose, still it didn't move.
Heated the sleave with a rosebud, still it didn't move. Short of cutting the sleave and destorying the hub does anyone have any sujestions. I have thought of grinding the sprocket from the axel and removing the axel from the outside. Then I can use a vertical hyd press to remove the hub possibly without damage. I bought this from a man in FL last week and dissasembled it over the weekend. The tub is in good shape, but faded bad.
Where the gelcoat isn't faded it is a gold metal flake, moded in fiberglass. It will need a complete paint inside and out. The sprockets and chain T40 are worn. I'll replace these with T50 to handle more HP and bigger, more agressave tires. I think the axels are big enough to handel the added stress. I'll post again as the restoration progresses. Thanks for any help pretaining to this odd aatv. E-mail jnash19@hotmail.com. Also would like to find the reverse option for a Scrambler. In the manual I've read, they should be the same. Same drive as the Scrambler 6x6.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Marc Stobinski (Jerseybigfoot) on Unrecorded Date: Edit

The wheel hubs are a sliding fit on the axles. Normally a hub puller and a slide hammer will take them off. Yours have a lot rust in the fit. You may want to soak them for a while. If you can get it runnig take the pins out of the axles and drive it in circles for a while. This works for the other AAtv's with the pinned sprockets to get them loose. On second thought you may want to try one hub at a time. If you are going to upgrade the secondary chain to 50 then just grind the weld off the axle. The big problem with the Scrambler is everything is mounted to the fiberglass. The outboard axle bearings are bolted thru the fiberglass and held in place with some tin plates on the inside. If you are going for some serious HP and bounce speed run 2 rails on the inside to connect between the same side axles. you can add some additional mounting plates to the floor of the tub and weld supports to the side rails. After you stiffen up the sides you can rework the inboard bearing "u" brackets with a cross tube. Check for fiberglass stress cracks at the outboard axle bearing cover bolts. That should tell you what kind of HP you want to add. If its badly cracked its too soft for a lot of HP without building a sub frame. I raced a Scrambler 6x6 in the early 70's and after a season the body was well cracked at the axles. without adding a frame it was dificult to keep the chains on.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Joe Nash on Unrecorded Date: Edit

Marc, thanks for the reply. I like your idea concerning the frame. The tub is tooo flexable and
needs reinforced. I'm thinking about installing a 1984 Honda Big Red power plant and trans. It has high/low range, reverse, automatic transmission, and 5 speed manual shift gear box. The low range
is what I'm really after, and it will do away with factory belt and clutch assembly. Do you know if the jackshaft, primary drive assembly, and clutches are strong enough to handle more torque. The Honda is only 200 cc but with low range the Hankang 25x13.00x9 @ 3psi will rinkel when in a hard pull. These tires are great for aatv's or atv, soft side wall, fantastic ride @ 2.5psi.. The tread is like the wooley booger
but on a soft ballon type carcase. Traction is unreal. I need to set this unit up for low end torque. So it can haul two people up these hills.Thanks again.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By cycleman on Unrecorded Date: Edit

JOE THE SCRAMBLER IN THE PICTURE IS A GOTCHA IT HAD 4 WHEEL DRIVE NO REVERSE I BOUGHT 2 NEW IN 1971 FOR $999.00 IT HAD A CHROME GAS TANK IN THE BACK BOTH OF MINE HAD ROLL BARS A LOT FASTER IN WATER THAN MY DADS BRAND NEW ATTEX WITH 8 HORSE I TOOK MY "GOTCHA" ACROSS A LAKE A GOOD 2 MILES IT HAD FIBERGLAS BODY ' GOLD COLOR REALLY SHARP METALFLAKE 8 INCH RIM TIRES MINE BROKE FIRST DAY WENT TO UNLOAD OFF TRAILER COIL WAS BAD 2 TIMES THAT HAPPEND TO ME B.S. MOTOR IF YOU NEED MORE WRITE ME SEE YA DOUG

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By daveyoder on Unrecorded Date: Edit

i am looking for scrambler decail and stickers thank everyone daveyoder@ hotmail.com


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