Other State Registration Laws

Route 6x6 Discussion Board: Legal Issues: Insurance, Titles, Laws: Other State Registration Laws
   By Mike on Unrecorded Date: Edit

I have been reading the posts on the registration issues in PA, NY and somewhere else under aatv marketing about registration issues in WI.

How about some input and insight on registration issues in the other states and Canada.

It would be interesting to compare state by state if aatv registration is required and if aatv's are being restricted in their use or flat out being ignored by state legislators.

How about it? Any legal beagles or other knowledgable readers out there that know their state registration laws or lack thereof?

From the recent posts:

PA - registration required
NY - registration required
WI - no registration required

   By Henry Gresham on Unrecorded Date: Edit

In Arkansas, registration is required. One time (ie, lifetime) registration as an "ATV - motorcycle", and a separate registration (3 yrs) as a boat IF you intend to use it on public waterways. Then you're good to go anywhere that off road vehicles are permitted. Each land mgmt agency has different rules on their land. I get a lot of comments on my Max II, since it has both the boat and ATV registration. You know, "does it float", "how is it on trails", etc.

   By ARGOGERU on Unrecorded Date: Edit

IN MICHIGAN YOU CANT GET THE SAME ANSWER FROM ANYBODY IN THE DNR. THEY ALL SAY DIFFERENT STUFF BUT YOU DO HAVE TO BE REGISTERED. THE BIG ISSUE IS WIDTH AND KNOWING THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AN ATV TRAIL AND AN ATV ROUTE IN WHICH NOBODY SEEMS TO HAVE AN ANSWER. THE U.P. RIDERS THAT I TALK TO DONT SEEM TO HAVE THE PROBLEM US IN THE LOWER HAVE.

   By Paul Leonard (Duk) on Unrecorded Date: Edit

Henry,

Funny I called the Arkansas Registation office, and they said I DIDNT need a registration as a boat, because it wasnt a boat. And that I did need the one time registration such as a four wheeler, but only if I am going to ride on govenment land.

   By RICK on Unrecorded Date: Edit

HAS ANYONE REGESTERED THERE 6X6 IN OHIO FOR AN ATV STICKER?

   By timl on Unrecorded Date: Edit

Are titles necessary for 6x6s in Wisconsin?
How about license? How are 6x6s licensed in WI as a ATV or as a boat?

Any help is appreciated.

Thanks,

Tim

   By Alan Harper on Unrecorded Date: Edit

Tim,
As a Coot owner in Wisconsin I'm not aware of any title/registration requirements. At least not as an ATV, maybe as a boat. Due to width and weight requirements it can't be used on state trails. Something like 42" wide and 450 lbs if I remember right, a lot smaller than my 60" and 1300 lbs. Needless to say, a lot of the newer ATV 4 wheelers don't meet the size/weight criteria either. Apparently 6 wheelers and Coots fall in the same catagory as farm equipment. Is legal anywhere farm equipment can go including roads as long as it has the red triangle on the back. Don't take this as gospel but it's the way I understand it after reading the state web page stuff.
Thanks,
Alan

   By Jesse on Unrecorded Date: Edit

WI Licensing info-
According to the WDNR Permit application, there is a six dollar fee to register ATV for private use on private land, a twelve dollar fee to register for use on public land along with some other registration options. Follow this link
http://www.dnr.state.wi.us/org/caer/cs/rec.htm

The state also defines an "ATV" as follows:[s. 340.01 (2g), Wis Stats. "All terrain vehicle" means an engine driven device which has a net weight of 900 pounds or less, which has a width of 48 inches or less, which is equipped with a seat designed to be straddled by the operator and which is designed to travel on 3 or more low pressure tires.

I think most 6x6 and 8x8's are wider than 48 inches so they shouldn't qualify as an ATV per the registration requirements for ATV's in WI. And I sure as hell would have trouble straddling a bench seat. HOWEVER, they may fall under some other category that I haven't found yet.

How they can call one of those 4 wheelers "all terrain" when excluding swamps, marshes and anything that has water and/or 6+ inches of mud in the equation and not classify our 6x6 and 8x8's as all terrain vehicles when they fit the definition for most parts except the size requirement (which I understand is in force for trail use but it should not be used to limit the definition of an ATV) is beyond me. If you've lived in WI long enough you know the WDNR is sometimes a bit, shall we say "out of the loop".
Hope the link helps some. If you find any other info, please share it!

   By Oliver on Unrecorded Date: Edit

NYS laws seem to be difficult to figure out. I've talked to DMV many times and usually get a different answer based on who I talk to. They normally say I have to register it as an ATV, but when I look at the definition of an ATV, my Buffalo truck doesn't qualify. 50 inches wide and 900 or less pounds doesn't describe my Max. Based on that, I can't register it as an ATV. This brings up the question, what do I register it as? Can I register it as a farm vehicle? I use it for managing woods and clearing, so that's not really a stretch. Any comments?

   By JT Barleman on Unrecorded Date: Edit

Oliver
Welcome to the dog fight.

FYI: PA requirements are nearly identical to NY. (Hummm ... wonder where my PA legislators got their "brilliant" insight as to ATV legislation?)

Suggest you contact Ramona at the Humphrey NY Fire Department. I'm pretty sure she can probably answer most of your questions ... OR ... put you on the right trail to someone who can.

JT

   By pete6x6 on Unrecorded Date: Edit

I'm a bit worried about it myself. But, I can always go up to Jersey to petec's or something like that. But I'd like to ride here in Maryland.

   By Oliver on Unrecorded Date: Edit

JT, Thanks for the tip. I'll contact her, do you have her phone number or email? I've just about given up on the DMV. Today's DMV: "Never the same answer twice!"

   By Tim O'Keefe on Unrecorded Date: Edit

In Rhode Island, You have to register an atv even if you only use it on your property and you are not allowed to use it anywhere in the state. What a bunch of garbage.

   By Scott Davis on Unrecorded Date: Edit

anyone know anything about Texas?

   By Dave Johnston on Unrecorded Date: Edit

Consider getting registered as farm equipment. Many states have a very liberal definition and if it is registered as farm equipment, it is OK to drive it on the road in some cases....

   By Steven A. Makitra (Slammy) on Unrecorded Date: Edit

Well fellas, I've read all of your remarks and I have decided to attempt to reg. my MAX IV in NYS as a farm vehicle. I guess it will depend on who I talk with at the DMV, what day of the week it is,or maybe even what kind of mood the counterperson is in as to my eventual fate. I'll be back and I'll post the results asap....stay tuned peanut gallery-Slammy in NYS

   By john hightree on Unrecorded Date: Edit

here in missouri our local dmv agent said i didnt need to registar our argo regardless of where we rode in mo.

   By Dave Andreasen (Mndave) on Unrecorded Date: Edit

Here in Minnesota ATVs are defined as

"motorized, floatation-tired vehicles with at least 3, but no more than 6 low pressure tires, with an engine displacement of less than 800 cubic centimeters and total dry weight of less than 800 pounds." - MN Recreational Motor Vehicles Regulations 1999-2000.

Note that there is no width restriction.

I am pretty sure that a Max II and Max IV qualify as ATV's under that definition. I am not as familiar with the Argo models so I can't say if they do or don't qualify.

I have my Max IV registered as an ATV and as boat. The clerk was confused, but did it anyway. I could also have just slapped a slow moving vehicle triangle on it and called it farm equipment. But I didn't want to run afoul of the DNR.

Hope this helps.

Dave

   By tvanwave on Unrecorded Date: Edit

Dave,

Do you know if the MAX with a track set would be allowd on snomobile trails - with the licsense of course.

Tim in Duluth MN

   By Dave Andreasen (Mndave) on Unrecorded Date: Edit

Tim in Duluth,

According to Minnesota Statues section 84.81 subdivision 3, a snowmobile must be steered by skis or runners. I think that a tracked 6x6 or 8x8 flunks that definition. You can read it here (sorry about the long URL).

http://www.revisor.leg.state.mn.us:8181/SEARCH/BASIS/mnstat/public/www/DDW?W%3DTEXT+PH+IS+%27snowmobile%27+ORDER+BY+SORT_KEY/Ascend%26M%3D3%26K%3D84.81%26R%3DY%26U%3D1

You could always see what the local Conservation Officer says though. It can't hurt to ask.

Later,

Dave

   By liflod (Liflod) on Unrecorded Date: Edit

Replace the laterals with old snowmobile skis!!

   By Eugene Kochnieff on Unrecorded Date: Edit

Ha Ha Ha

Great one Liflod i'd just love to see the dumb bureaucrats try to argue your suggestion.

   By E.J. on Unrecorded Date: Edit

Greetings from NY. I just got my 1981 Attex SuperChief registered in Canandaigua NY. During my first trip to the DMV,the local DMV called the DMV headquarters in Albany. They informed me that I would need a sheriff to verify the VIN number, a letter of ownership, which you can fill out yourself. (note: if you don't know where the previous owner is, don't panic. Tell them you have owned the machine for OVER two years, and have no way of contacting the previous owner)After jumping through alot of hoops, bottom line is in NY you will get an ATV and a boat registration.
3 year boat registration: $30
1 year ATV registration: $14.25
Driving off my trailer into Canandaigua Lake at the public boat launch while everyone is staring in disbelief: priceless
Time it would take to get to the south end of the lake with my current duel trolling moter set-up: about six months
I'm working on that last detail

   By jim grant on Unrecorded Date: Edit

Lost title, no title, ? of every thing old looks new again..old max II
how can the guys that fix up old atvs get a title,
I live in florida and they have a vehicle title policy to ride on public lands..you must have old title or vehicle cir of origin with vin #
there aint no vin on this thing..any ideas..
Thanks jim

   By Fred Sowerwine, Montana's Max Dealer (Fred4dot) on Unrecorded Date: Edit

Just tell them it is homemade (made from parts of other machines). My guess is the sheriff (or some law enforcement official) will inspect it. If it doesn't turn up as a stolen vehicle, they will give you a title.

   By roadwolf on Unrecorded Date: Edit

grant, the dot should provide you with a VIN if you don't have. ask them, it worked for me.

   By Bonnie Rutkowski on Unrecorded Date: Edit

I live in the wonderful State of NJ (NOT) and have aquired a MaxII. How can i get it insured??
it seems that no one will insure it. Any help will be much appreciated .

Bonnie

   By Kevin Watson (Kevin) on Unrecorded Date: Edit

Check with your outdoor angling and hunting organizations.
You will have to become a member but it might give you access to the insurance you need as well as other benefits.

   By Russ Olszewski on Unrecorded Date: Edit

According to Max (Recreative Industries), Progressive Ins. knows what the product is & will insure it.

   By Mike on Unrecorded Date: Edit

In Wisconsin an operator of an AATV who plans on operating it in the water should have it registered as a boat or face a stiff fine if caught without registration. The catch is that it is equipped with an engine that can propel it. It does not matter if the engine is running or not at the time it is in the water. A DNR warden recently told me that the Max and Argo machines cannot be operated on any state ATV trails because they are not ATV's as defined in State Statute and therefore they cannot be registered as an ATV in WI. They cannot be operated on a state snowmobile trail either again because they are not a snowmobile as defined in the statute and again, cannot be registered as a snowmobile. Wisconsin registration laws (read "tax" revenue) have completely overlooked AATV's as recreational machines. There are not enough of them in the state apparently. That is good because the less regulation, the better off the owner is. In WI, you are required to register an ATV (3-4 wheelers) and snowmobiles EVEN to operate them on your own property. If AATV's are ever required to be registered in WI, the same requirement will apply. I think private use on your own property should not be regulated with registration fees.

   By MadCityKen on Unrecorded Date: Edit

Wisconsin ATV registration is not required on any vehicle over “48 inches in width” or that has “ a seat designed to be straddled”. A 6X6 doesn’t qualify as an ATV and DOES NOT and can’t be registered as an “ATV”. If you take your machine into “navigatable waters” i.e. you unload and drive it down a boat landing into the water, it must be registered as a boat and have hull numbers attached. Back waters, ponds, slough's, etc. are not considered navagatable in most circumstances. If you fall through the ice, or cross a stream that is considered “incidental contact” and you are not a boat. This is what I got from the horses (DNR’s) mouth.

   By Douglas MacCullagh (Dougmac) on Unrecorded Date: Edit

I ran into an interesting problem in Mississippi. Anything that floats and uses mechanical propulsion must be registered as a boat. Since my AATV does not fit the form, I visited DMR and asked them how to fill out the form, and where to put the numbers. (My Argo does not have a bow where I can attach 2" numbers.) I was told that, because of the wheels, it is a vehicle not a vessel, even afloat, and cannot be registered. So far I have not had a chance to test that. I suspect that the ruling will depend on the officer I run into at the time!

   By John Cahoon on Unrecorded Date: Edit

The following definitions are for the State of Maine. It appears that I would have to register an Argo 8 as both an ATV for general purposes and also as a snowmobile if I ventured on any snowmobile trail. And also as a boat?

Snowmobile. "Snowmobile" means any vehicle propelled by mechanical power that is primarily designed to travel over ice or snow supported in part by skis, belts or cleats. [1979, c. 420, § 1 (new).]

. Unlawfully operating an ATV on a snowmobile trail. A person is guilty of unlawfully operating a vehicle on a snowmobile trail if that person operates any 4-wheel drive vehicle, dune buggy, ATV, motorcycle or any other motor vehicle, other than a snowmobile and appurtenant equipment, at any time on snowmobile trails that are financed in whole or in part with funds from the Snowmobile Trail Fund, unless that use has been authorized by the landowner or the landowner's agent or unless the use is necessitated by an emergency involving safety of persons or property. [2001, c. 289, §1 (amd).]

All-terrain vehicle. "All-terrain vehicle" means a motor driven, off-road, recreational vehicle capable of cross-country travel on land, snow, ice, marsh, swampland or other natural terrain. It includes, but is not limited to, a multi-track, multi-wheel or low pressure tire vehicle; a motorcycle or related 2-wheel, 3-wheel or belt-driven vehicle; an amphibious machine; or other means of transportation deriving motive power from a source other than muscle or wind. For purposes of this subchapter, "all-terrain vehicle" does not include an automobile as defined in Title 29-A, section 101, subsection 7; an electric personal assistive mobility device as defined in Title 29-A, section 101, subsection 22-A; a truck as defined in Title 29-A, section 101, subsection 88; a snowmobile; an airmobile; a construction or logging vehicle used in performance of its common functions; a farm vehicle used for farming purposes; or a vehicle used exclusively for emergency, military, law enforcement or fire control purposes. [2001, c. 687, §1 (amd).]


Motorboat. "Motorboat" means any watercraft, including airmobiles, equipped with propulsion machinery of any type, whether or not the machinery is the principal source of propulsion, is permanently or temporarily attached, or is available for propulsion on the watercraft. [1979, c. 543, § 66 (amd).]

Are we confused yet?

   By Fred Sowerwine, Montana's Max Dealer (Fred4dot) on Unrecorded Date: Edit

John, Find out what department is responsible for enforcing those laws and go to the enforcement division and ask for a written opinion.

I would say you only have to register as an All Terrain Vehicle because it includes "amphibious vehicle" and states "capable of cross-country travel on land, snow, ice, marsh, swampland or other natural terrain.", You probably should have tracks mounted to be on a snowmobile trail. I do not think any amphibious vehicle is a water craft even though they will float and can go on water. I think a water craft is a machine made primarily to go on or in the water. That is like saying a human being is a water animal and they are not, we are land animals.

   By John Cahoon on Unrecorded Date: Edit

Fred,
Here is the official E-Mail response from Maine's Dept. of Inland Fisheries and Wildlife, the agency responsible for snowmobile, atv, and boat registrations here in the State of Maine.

"Mr. Cahoon,

If you are going to use it in the winter with tracks, it needs to be
registered as a snowmobile. If using it in the summer on land, registered
as an ATV and if using in the summer in the water, registered as a boat.

If you have questions or need additional information, please feel free to
contact the Registration Division at 287-2043."

   By John Cahoon on Unrecorded Date: Edit

As a follow up to the above post, the following are the fees for registration in the State of Maine:
Atv...$17.00 + agent fee of $1 or $2

Snowmobile...$31.00 + agent fee of $1 or $2

Boat...$6.00 + excise tax (10 hp or less)
$10.00 + " " (10 hp to 50 hp)
$15.00 + " " (50 hp + )

$10.00 Lake and River Protection Sticker

So an Argo Conquest would cost $71.00 for the first year plus the excise tax which varies on value.

   By Fred Sowerwine, Montana's Max Dealer (Fred4dot) on Unrecorded Date: Edit

John, you could very well be right, but you need to contact the enforcement division (should say in your state laws who is responsible for enforcement). It was the state title and registration bureau here who tried to tell me Max had to be registered as boats if they went in the water and OHV "off highway vehicles" when on land (didn't say anything about snowmobile, but I can tell they would have gone for that also). I went to the legal division of the Montana Fish, Wildlife and Parks (FWP are the ones legislated to enforce OHV, boat and snowmobile laws.) Don't know about your state, but here, the use is based on "primarily designed for". If it has wheels, it is land, if it has a hull, it is a boat, if it has a drive belt/track and skis to turn with, it is a snowmobile. Snowmobiles are prohibited from going on water.

Maybe I am a little more independently minded than some, but when I think something is wrong, I go until I get it fixed or have my head bloodied from butting it against brick walls. When I first started selling the Max, I thought I had the bureaucrats lined out and I did for about eight years (personnel changes). This time I have it in writing on a Fish and Wildlife letterhead so if I have to fight again, it should be easier. I have learned that many people really don't know what they are talking about and when they are in government and working for me, I stick up for what I think is right.

Good luck if you decide to do battle. I feel pretty sure that Argo or Max would not want to defend our machines as boats. I am a licensed "Off Highway Vehicle" dealer - it takes a different license to sell boats. Also, here in Montana, only motor boats ten feet or longer need a decal and numbers and are required to pay a fee.

   By Dave Johnston on Unrecorded Date: Edit

NEVADA. ARGO CONQUEST. 8-wheels. No, and I mean NO provision under Nevada law to register it as a snowmobile, ATV, AATV, or boat (unless you want to install red/green/running lights, life jackets, and all the boat required items). IF you own a farm, you can license it as FARM equipment. But on the flip side, the police in the more rural areas are nice guys. Unless you flat out are doing something dangerous, they are pretty understanding of the "odd ball machines." Go to neighboring California and you have to get an OFF HIGHWAY VEHICLE (OHV) sticker for anything that moves off road, even if you are from out of state. We definitely are the orphans in the off road world.

   By mike martindale (Wetsu) on Unrecorded Date: Edit

well boy's in kansas,if it is on land it is an atv,as soon as it hits the water,it is a boat.which means numbers,decals,lifejackets,and a fire extinguisher.and this is per K.D.W.P. kansas dept.of wildlife and parks.and the only reason is because it has a motor.and when i attach my trolling motor,it cost more.the upside to this is...i only have to pay it every 3 years.and it is only 30.00 dollars.

   By David Johnston on Unrecorded Date: Edit

NEVADA. I got my ARGO registered as a boat. Did not take much in the way of equipment to do it. I hear a rumor that they want to license all ATVs. That would be a good idea in my book. If Nevada licensed IT's ATVs then it could charge a fee for OUT OF STATE machines also, like California does. If the funds were used to ENSURE we would have a place to ride, it would benefit us. Right now, the state has no vested interest in seeing there are trails to use and closing them down is easy and costs them nothing.

   By Allan R. Collins on Unrecorded Date: Edit

In response to a similar question from a customer, I contacted the local offce of the Florida DMV who had no idea about registering the ARGO as a boat. (As a land vehicle, it's not rquired, by the way)

After much telephone and email corrspondence,DMV Tallahassee told me ther was no requirement to register the ARGO as a boat. I'm still waiting for the letter confirming this, however.

   By mike martindale (Wetsu) on Unrecorded Date: Edit

allen,you might try fla.dept.of wildlife and parks.they may tell you something different.in kansas,as long as it is on land it is an atv,as soon as it goes in the water,it becomes a boat.this is according to K.D.W.P.and it must be registered as a boat.

   By Allan R. Collins (Capnal) on Unrecorded Date: Edit

I quote from the Florida Department of Highway Safety letter dated June 12, 2003....
"According to Florida law we do not title or register any Amphibious All Terrain Vehicles."
Unequivocal statement, eh?

   By Mike on Unrecorded Date: Edit

Any more states out there that DO Not require registrations of AATV's besides Wisconsin & Florida?

   By scottlyon on Unrecorded Date: Edit

Require registration? Iowa won't let you register it as an atv. So I can't ride on the state trails!They say an atv has a seat that you stratle with handle bars.

   By Jim Stiver - Western PA MAX Dealer (Viper) on Unrecorded Date: Edit

PA ATV Registration is as follows:

Class 1 ATV - A motorized off-highway vehicle, which travels on three or more inflatable tires and has a maximum width of 50 inches and a maximum dry weight of 800 pounds.

Class 2 ATV - A motorized off-highway vehicle, which travels on three or more inflatable tires and has a width which exceeds 50 inches or a dry weight which exceeds 800 pounds

In the state of PA a 6 or 8 wheeler is registered as a Class 2 ATV which limits the areas in which you can ride since most state trails are posted as Class 1 ATV trails only. I believe that this is one reason that our class of ATV is restricted to such a slow growth, because most states cater to 4 wheelers in regards to state trails. In many states we are limited to private land use, but those same states gladly accept our registration monies to develop new ATV trails in which we cannot use. GO FIGURE!!

Jim

   By joe Jiamboi ( - 69.167.194.82) on Unrecorded Date: Edit

Found Great Web Site - Official Port Saint Lucie Web Site

Click Here Port Saint Lucie Official Site

   By Rob Perry on Unrecorded Date: Edit

Argo Use on State Land (Michigan)
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The following addresses only Michigan's state regulations. To determine the regulations on federal properties, you should contact the appropriate federal agency with jurisdiction over the areas where you wish to operate.
An Argo is regulated as an Off-Road Recreation Vehicle (ORV) under Michigan law. In the Lower Peninsula, an ORV may only be operated in areas open to the public on designated routes, trails, or areas that are posted as open to ORVs. However, ORV trails are limited to vehicles that are less then 50 inches in width, so an Argo cannot be operated on designated ORV "Trails". An Argo can be operated on designated ORV "Routes" and Scramble Areas in the Lower Peninsula with a valid ORV license.

In the Upper Peninsula, ORVs in general may be operated on State Forest Roads that are not posted as closed. An Argo may be operated in the Upper Peninsula on State Forest Roads that are not posted as closed and on designated ORV Routes, but not on designated ORV Trails because they are restricted to vehicles less than 50 inches in width.

Cross-county travel by ORVs in areas open to the public is prohibited in both the Upper and Lower Peninsulas with very few exceptions (such as to retrieve a legally taken deer at minimal speed).

If an Argo is used as a vessel, it is also regulated under the Marine Safety statute. An Argo is required to be registered as a vessel if it is used on the water. If you do not use it on the water, it does not have to be registered as a vessel.

You may use an Argo for duck hunting, with certain restrictions. The Argo may not be driven down the bank of a river of stream and into the water. You may access surface waters at boat launches. You may not operate in a wetland or in a manner so as to create an erosive condition. While transporting a firearm, it must be unloaded in chamber and magazine, and enclosed in a case. And, of course, it must be registered as a vessel.

If your disabilities meet the qualifications, you are allowed certain privileges, but cannot operate cross-county to hunt.

Persons with disabilities are allowed to operate ORVs, including Argos, at places and times that would otherwise be closed. You are allowed to operate on state forest roads, including those not posted as open, and are exempt from the quiet hours during firearm deer season in November.

You are still required to have an ORV license on an Argo. An Argo is still not allowed on ATV trails, since only vehicles less than 50 inches in width are allowed on a designated ORV "Trail".

To meet the requirements you need one of the following: a valid temporary or permanent handicapper parking permit issued by the Michigan Department of State, a Permit to Hunt From a Standing Vehicle, or a completed Physician Certification ORV Privileges For Persons With A Disability form (Form # PR9137).

   By chris welch (Argonut) on Unrecorded Date: Edit

I bought an Argo Bigfoot in 2/2004, when I went to register it in New York last week, I had a receipt from who I purchased it from and the title, I also had the owners manual with the first owners name and the dealer who sold it to him. They then informed me that I needed a "formal"receipt from ODG to the dealer, then one from the dealer to the first owner,then a form mv-51and a form-mv51b from the first owner to who I purchased it from, then I would need a form mv-51 from who I purchased it from to me. I bought the argo on E-bay and the guy who I bought it from is the dealers brother. I have tried to contact him with no reply this week I was thinking of calling his brother the dealer but have not done so yet. I would greatly appreciate any advice or ideas anyone has. thanks!

   By maxfactor ( - 24.195.242.119) on Unrecorded Date: Edit

New York, sux for aatv's useage,and registering and such and they are made here,max's that is. Good luck!my name is jim welch any relation?I am by Albany.

   By chris welch (Argonut) on Unrecorded Date: Edit

We used to live in Schenectady but I don't think we are related.I live in Endicott now. Well so far it looks like I'm not gonna register it. thanks

   By Jerry on Unrecorded Date: Edit

Any information on Missouri regs?

   By Missouri's Max Dealer (Brandon_price) on Unrecorded Date: Edit

Jerry where are you located in Missouri? I'm right in the middle of the state in Fulton. We are riding at Deepwater on December 4th if you have a 6x6 ATV.

   By Steve McClain (Oftencranky) (148.78.243.26) on : Edit

I am trying to get an offroad permit for my newly acquired max in Idaho. The tag office and Parks & Rec people say they wont permit this type vehicle. Does anyone know which button to push to get the required offroad permits for the max in Idaho?

   By Fred Sowerwine, Montana's Max dealer (Fred4dot) (216.166.168.53) on : Edit

Steve, I'd suggest reading the state laws. Whatever department overseees public lands, should have an off road vehicle policy. It is an ATV and should be treated the same as a quad. Call the Governor's office.

   By Ryan Boley (69.29.230.59) on : Edit

Anybody know anything about aatv's in Washington State? Everyone I talk to has never seen or heard of anything that will go on land and water too.


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