By Bill cripe (Bcripe) on Unrecorded Date: Edit

Hello, Do I need a bill of sale for the Max II that I just bought? What if I cant get one?

Thanks,
BC

By Fred Sowerwine, Montana's Max dealer (Fred4dot) on Unrecorded Date: Edit

Bill, Don't know what the laws are in California, but you should have a Bill of Sale or the original MSO (manufacturers statement of origin) to get a title. If you can't get a Bill of Sale or the MSO, probably your wire transfer papers would provide Proof of purchase and there should be some procedure to get it titled. I think you should contact your state department of motor vehicles and see what is required and they can advise you.

By Mike on Unrecorded Date: Edit

Yes you should get a bill of sale for your Max. It's your proof that you bought it. Why would you not be able to get one? I bought my Max from a repo man. I not only got a bill of sale/receipt but I also got the MSO because it was a new machine.

By Bill cripe (Bcripe) on Unrecorded Date: Edit

Its a really long story but the basically the guy I bought it from is pissed off. See robert stapleton thread. He claims that he is suing me for slander and that I ruined his reputation in the small town he lives in. If anybody wants full details email me. Lets just say its a major PIA!

I do have wire transfer paperwork and packing slip.

Fred, In Montana what do you need to do? Maybe I will just take it to my place up there.

BC

By Fred Sowerwine, Montana's Max dealer (Fred4dot) on Unrecorded Date: Edit

Bill, Here, we have a bonded title process. After presenting your paper work that indicates you have ownership, you need to have the vehicle inspected (and a form filled out) by a law enforcement officer and buy a bond for the value of the vehicle. If no one claims the vehicle within three years, they issue a regular title after the three year period is up. It is a little expensive and takes a long time, but it can be done.

I'd go back to Mr. Stapleton - He can't very well claim slander if he fails to complete his end of the bargain (selling a vehicle includes providing clear title which is either a title, MSO or notarized bill of sale). And on top of that, there is a difference in value between a 2001 machine and a 1998 machine (between 995 and 1300 dollars as per the Sep.-Dec. 2003 Kelley Blue Book) and he should have told you about the broken throttle lever or fixed it, especially where one can no longer buy a plastic handle and must buy both a cable and throttle lever since he was representing it "like new".

IMO, he was in the wrong not to keep in contact with you after the sale (it was he who told you when it was to be shipped) and still is "in the wrong" if he fails to provide you legal paper work. I'd think he is the one who should be concerned about a law suit.

By bigkodiak on Unrecorded Date: Edit

Bill
Sounds to me like this guy doesn't have a leg to stand on. I kept up with initial thread and even though I am only hearing one side, his claim of slander appears weak.
Tell him to step up to the plate and play ball, give you what he promised or give you your money back.
Russ