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Fred Sowerwine, Montana's Max dealer (Fred4dot)

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Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 10:52 pm:   

PO Owner, I didn't say the 450T was crap. I said it lacks the drive system enhancements that give extended life. Many people use them with no problems, but if you have read this forum, you will read posts by people who have used their machines to the extreme and had problems (most of those are 450T owners).

It is pretty black and white on the literature what is standard equipment on each model. I don't think anyone is pulling any wool. The track kit description says "requires 21" Goodyear tires and solid axles". I live at 4200 feet elevation and use the machine up to 7500 or so in dry powder. In my situation, 18 HP is a minimum for adequate performance with a tracked machine; people in lower elevations and more solid snow can probably get adequate performance with 14 or 16 Horsepower machine. Up until a few years ago, one could upgrade the 450T Max II and the 500T max IV with solid axles (then all machines could be made track capable).

I probably worry more about owner satisfaction than some because I have a limited market and I strive to have 100% satisfied customers. I realize that many people don't read all the info before they buy and they come to me for my experience. My wife accuses me of trying to talk people out of buying from me (I don't do that, but I am only aware of one person who I didn't spend enough time with prior to the order). I don't think anyone who has bought from me will say that I wasn't 100% forthright.

Your 450T Max II is a fine machine if you don't abuse it (or have someone else who might operate it that would abuse it), but it will not last as long as the machines with better drive system components. If you live at a low elevation and intended to use tracks on your 450T max II you did not do adequate research or ask enough questions. Even though I do try to have fully informed customers, I don't think it is any dealer's duty to cover every possible scenario - they do have a duty to give you an answer to your questions. Sometimes a buyer is wiser to deal with someone who has some expertise rather than one who offers the lowest price (sometimes you can get both).