Missouri's Max Dealer (Brandon_price)
|Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 10:52 pm: |
The 18" track is nice for the larger Avenger, but I think it is unlikely the Max will ever go over 15". It's good to see Argo finally got a rubber track. When I was at the Max factory in July, they had a new test track on a 27hp IV. It was the same width but had more aggressive tread like a snowmobile would have. They said it has worked real well so far. I don't think it is necessary to go wider as that only causes excessive drive train wear. The only way to make any tracked amphib better in snow is to make it faster, and that is only needed for hills.
I have an Argo price list here that is dated 4-7.-04. It already has the rubber track kit listed for the Avenger even though Argo just came out with it..? The list price is $3396. The Avenger itself retails for $14,500 here in Missouri and weighs 1205 by itself according to the Argo brochure. I know Fred is busy running PSI numbers now.
I have a good deal of experience with the Argo and do my best not to bash them excessively (haha). I have considered selling them and wouldn't do that if I didn't feel it was a good product. It is a quality machine that does the 6x6 world proud and I think it is best suited for utility use only. If you over look the differential tranny featuring three wheel drive, I still find them to be under powered.
Comparing the Bigfoot 18hp to the Max II 18hp:
The Bigfoot has 25" tires and the II has 22" tires, yet they have the same ground clearance. The Bigfoot weighs more and has an inefficient transmission compared to the Max. They both start with the same power so the Bigfoot ends up with less power to the ground. The Max IV has a similar weight to the Bigfoot. Even with the 18hp engine and 26" tires on the IV, it is still a great deal faster and more maneuverable than the Bigfoot. In the real off road world, the Max II compares to the Bigfoot the closest of any others. The Avenger does have some advantages over the Conquest 8x8, but we have found the 8x8s to be even more helpless than the 6x6 Argos. I find it unfair to compare the Max IV 25/27hp with 26" tires to anything else... there is just nothing that compares.